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Offlineblankman
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Using pond water to make PF jars?
    #3416186 - 11/27/04 04:48 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Doe's anyone know if you're supposed to use natural water from a pond or lake to make PF jars? I think I thought I remembered reading somewhere that you're supposed to use water like that, the murkier the better, but I don't remember who said it. The reasoning behind it was the pond water had naturally occuring organic compounds and microoganisums that helped the mushrooms grow. I think I thought I recall doing an experiment to see if this was true. It seems like I might have hiked down to a pond and scooped out a picture of good murky water, then I probably made a batch of jars, 8 or 9 of them with regular tap water and 3 or 4 with the pond water. But then I got the jars confused so there was no way of knowing which were the tap water and which weren't. (Not very scientific I know.) When the mushrooms started to grow 3 or 4 of the cakes really out preformed the rest and yeilded a lot more of the stuff that I was supposed to be trying to grow. Most of them would grow 2 or 3 nice ones at a time, but 3 or 4 of the cakes had mad flushes of a lot of shrooms at once that kinda made the cakes look like a Chili's Awesome Blossem. But I don't know if it was the pond water that made these cakes do so well or some other unknow variable or something. Or something else. I don't know. Wait... what was I talking about? Never mind.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: blankman]
    #3416208 - 11/27/04 04:59 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

I'm no expert yet, but it seems to me that using pond/lake water may have more risks for contamination. But then again it almost seems that it would work better as it is more natural and wild mushrooms grow off the same type of water and conditions.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: us3fu1idi0t]
    #3416617 - 11/27/04 06:44 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

pond water is gooooood.

Whatever is living in the water will be killed. The water didn't go through machine filtering, no cleaning chemicals or nothing. Pond water, rain water, distilled water, all good.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: blankman]
    #3416620 - 11/27/04 06:46 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

> uh.. no, just use a bottle of purified water.

Or tap water. Don't make things more complicated then they have to be.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: dog]
    #3416634 - 11/27/04 06:51 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

yeah, pond water is good.

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Whatever is living in the water will be killed. The water didn't go through machine filtering, no cleaning chemicals or nothing. Pond water, rain water, distilled water, all good.




and thats why. Its like adding nutritional yeast to your mix. people at first think it would be bad because its alive, but it gets killed when you sterilize. If you are using pond water you'd deffinetly want a 15psi PC then, i'm sure there might be something a little more dangerous then just regular water.


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    #3416648 - 11/27/04 06:56 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: RRhoads]
    #3416734 - 11/27/04 07:13 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

listen to dog. even though you will resterilize its better safe than sorry. it will work but just go get some purified water, this has been done thousands of times and it works. now if show me proof that pond water is loaded with alot more nutrients than purified water i might consider it better.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3416797 - 11/27/04 07:30 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

pond water is good but not as good as toilet water.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3416823 - 11/27/04 07:34 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

kronny forgot a little bit of that toilet water tek. what you do is eat only rice for a month then you take a shit stir it around real good then you got yourself some good water.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3416838 - 11/27/04 07:36 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3416936 - 11/27/04 08:00 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

So what does all this mean?


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: blankman]
    #3416959 - 11/27/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Sure you can do it, but why go to all the trouble when you can just use tap water. Its more than likely not going to give you better results, IMO it will giv eyou worse results. You will have a much higher ratio of bacteria and the such so you get a higher chance of a nasty surviving the PC. Just use tap water man.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: blankman]
    #3416992 - 11/27/04 08:14 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

blankman said:
I think I thought I remembered reading somewhere that you're supposed to use water like that, the murkier the better, but I don't remember who said it.




You probably read it in the PF tek;

" A note on water: A recent update is worth mentioning. Water quality is indeed important. I have found out that "natural" water is the water to use. It makes for better cultivation of this mushroom on this simple substrate. Distilled water is good for making spore solutions and syringes and storing spore solution. But for growing, they seem to like the "natural" water such as: swamp, lake, stream, pond,river, ground or any water that is rich in organics. I have heard that "mineral" type drinking water is good and makes a difference. I suppose that water seeping from an organic compost pile would be about the best. "


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: ticktock]
    #3417260 - 11/27/04 09:36 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Pond water will probably have more minerals than tap water. Any organism in pond water would be killed by the PC.
As long as the water isn't stagnant and green, go ahead and use it.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: andjor]
    #3417336 - 11/27/04 09:56 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

I would try it like you did before but this time lable them. Some teks say to add sugar or honey to the water, because of the nutrients, and then theres that thread in adv. cult. about using coffee. It seems like the more nutrients the better, but make sure you got a pressure cooker.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: NoodleSalad]
    #3417404 - 11/27/04 10:15 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

It isn't going to hurt anything as long as your sterilization procedures are up to snuff.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: discman1]
    #3417521 - 11/27/04 10:55 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

But theres the key, as long as his sterilization is up to snuff.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3417775 - 11/28/04 12:27 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Yeah, labeling them would be a good idea. I think I'll try the experiment again, only this time I'll make most of the jars with the pond water and only a few with tap water. That way if the pond water really was the key then the larger portion of the cakes will be producing the mad flushes like before and not just 3 or 4 of them. I'll also just be rolling in fucking shrooms and I'll do a happy shroom dance all around my apartment. Hopefully I'll remember to let yall know how the experiment goes.


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Re: Using pond water to make PF jars? [Re: blankman]
    #3418729 - 11/28/04 08:42 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

We dont add water to add nutrients, we add water to hydrate, the less crap in the water the better. Theres a reason we use grains, and BRF for a food source.

Be smart and safe.

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