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OfflineRiffSki
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What is "reality"?
    #3413127 - 11/26/04 07:06 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

I'm sitting here thinking
whats reality?
Is it an illusion?
Who decides whats reality?
How can i know you that answer are real?
how can i prove my existence?
How can you prove that i'm sitting here writing on a comp and not banging on a rock with my dick?


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3413231 - 11/26/04 07:36 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

Reality is that which is.

Figuring out what actually is can be difficult.

Q: "How can I prove my existence?"

A: Reduction to absurdity:

I will pretend for a moment that I do not exist.
This doubting my own existence is a thought.
If there is a thought there must be a thinker.
It is impossible for me to be thinking unless I exist as a thinking thing.

"Cogito ergo sum" trans. "I think therefore I am" (Descartes, 1st meditation).

The Cogito only proves that the subject exists as a thinking thing. Further work must be done to find indubitable knowledge of self as extended in space/time, or in relation to other things.


Q: "How can you prove that i'm sitting here writing on a comp and not banging on a rock with my dick?"

A: Had you not written these questions, then I would not have been able to answere them, and I'm 100% sure that I exist.


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: shroomydan]
    #3413296 - 11/26/04 07:50 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

thinking of a shrink, they kinda got a positions where they can 'say what real or not', 'sane or not' and such?
putting people behind bars?


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: Gomp]
    #3413301 - 11/26/04 07:52 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

you answer yes, but how do i know you are real?


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3413450 - 11/26/04 08:36 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

THIS is reality dude.. THIS!


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: Strumpling]
    #3415242 - 11/27/04 09:29 AM (12 years, 15 days ago)

define THIS


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3415245 - 11/27/04 09:31 AM (12 years, 15 days ago)

THIS

:confused: :thumbup:
th-
suff.
Used to form the archaic third person singular present indicative of verbs: leadeth.

-is
v.
Third person singular present indicative of be.


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: Gomp]
    #3415398 - 11/27/04 11:47 AM (12 years, 15 days ago)

oy...
well, on one level, "reality" is a dream that we  have all agreed to share...


while on another level, "reality" is all that stuff that doesn't go away when you aren't paying attention to it
:wink:


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3417600 - 11/27/04 11:30 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)



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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: Peaceful_Nomad]
    #3417637 - 11/27/04 11:39 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

Man, that guy was a genius!

Heh... but no, seriously, he has GOT IT.


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3418268 - 11/28/04 03:18 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

RiffSki said:
I'm sitting here thinking
whats reality?
Is it an illusion?
Who decides whats reality?




Reality exists, as far as we can agree.  There is evidence of a concrete reality, but there is no evidence for how that concrete reality is interpreted, by each of us as individuals.  Our minds are too different, and therefore interpret the concret reality in different ways. 

Quote:

How can i know you that answer are real?
how can i prove my  existence?
How can you prove that i'm sitting here writing on a comp and not banging on a rock with my dick?




I know that you are real, because evidence is left behind that is concrete, i.e., your words on the initial post of this thread.

I can find you, if you give my your IP address.  :grin:

And even if you typed your post on a quarter-operated computer in Las Vegas, Nevada, and I can never find "you", I can find the computer on which you typed your words, and if I take your dick and and bash that computer into shreds, you can bet your reality that the Las Vegas police will agree that reality is that I bashed that computer into shreds and will handcuff me and arrest me for vandalism of property.  Oh, I might also be charged with lewd conduct.

You existed for at least the amount of time you posted this thread.  And the concrete reality is that if you didn't exist, we wouldn't be reading the evidence of your existence.


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: Frog]
    #3418338 - 11/28/04 03:53 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

"Perception is a vision isn't it"- Serj Tankian


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: forest2005]
    #3418523 - 11/28/04 06:04 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

yeah ypou can find me, but i still cant be sure if you are a illusion


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3418555 - 11/28/04 06:34 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

what is reality?
what is real?
are you real?

the answers to these questions, simply dont matter.
if your happiness is an illusion or not,is it still not happy?
if the guy smashing you in the face is an illusion or not,does it still not hurt?
when people search for truth,actual truth not just what they want to hear,they are not prioritizing properly,in my opinion.
Truth is insignificant.
whether this or that is true or not has no bearing on your situation right now,You gotta deal with the situation right now.
the important thing,the priority,is how you deal,your attitude.

howevern if your asking these questions out of pure entertainment,then my answer is "WE DONT KNOW"
thats pretty much the best answer you can give to almost any question,zero bullshit.

on a side note,"i think therefore i am" doesnt really work if you wanna get technical.
what is thought?what are you?they could be "illusions"
so the better phrase would be "there is something so...there definately is something"

really,that is the one statement that is 100% true, THERE IS EXISTANCE
but in order for that to have any merit we need a second statement to be 100% true, THERE IS LOGIC

perhaps the two are the same,perhaps existance simply IS logic itself,things dont abide to the rules of logic and logical operations,but is simply logic itself
WoooOOoOOoo


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: krin]
    #3418592 - 11/28/04 07:07 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

I rearly get hurt by hurting me.
not after i realized that pain is just signals sent to the brain.
so if reality is a illusion, the signals are a illusion, illusions are dreams, dreams are not real so pain is not real


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3418598 - 11/28/04 07:12 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

so illusionary pain will still hurt unless you dont do something about the situation by changing your attitude/thought pattern.

so if the "illusionary" pain is still a problem to be dealt with,why call it an illusion?


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: krin]
    #3418615 - 11/28/04 07:24 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Pain is not real, therefor, we learn in the years that falling hurts, getten beat up hurts, therefor the mind starts sending this signals to the brain cause that what it finds natural


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3418632 - 11/28/04 07:33 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

i find your thoughts confusing,probably because im not you


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: krin]
    #3418637 - 11/28/04 07:34 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

many people say that.
I write my toughts as they come to me.
You must have a deep insight to understand them.
or just be really nuts


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Re: What is "reality"? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3418764 - 11/28/04 09:29 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

unreal, is still reality?


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