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Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help
    #3413122 - 11/26/04 07:03 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

ok, so here's the deal. 79 Nova, 250 V6 1brll carb. first thing in the morning, i can start the car, and it will run fine, however, the idle does not kick down like it used to after it is warmed up.

it will drive fine like that, but the idle is slightly low when i put it in gear.

Howerver, if i start it up once the engine is warm, it will *most likely* have a SUPER low idle, to the point where it will die if i dont drive with 2 feet when coming to a stop (it sucks nuts)

so it will drive normal sometimes if i restat it, but it's becomeing more often than not that it's running like that all the time when started warm.

i've sprayed carb cleaner all down it, and replaced the fuel filter not so long ago with a tune up and whatnot, i sprayed carb cleaner all around the gaskets to the carb without any idle change (i did this abbout 4 months ago and found the carb was a tiny bit loose, and then it went away after tigntening the bolts slightly)

anyeone have any thoughts about this?


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Phychotron]
    #3413210 - 11/26/04 07:31 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

erm...did you try to adjust the idle mixture screw?


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Shroomism]
    #3413257 - 11/26/04 07:42 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

yea, i made sure to mark the origional location, and adjusted it untill it sounded better, and then it was runnin alright for about 2 days (although i dont remember driving it that much those 2 days) and then it went back to crap, if not worse


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Phychotron]
    #3413609 - 11/26/04 09:21 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

I had an 84 Jeep Wrangler that had a similar problem. We tried everything from replacing multiple carbs, to rebuilding the whole engine.

The best fix we found for it was driving it into a tree and buying a new Jeep.

Best of luck, friend :grin:


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Samuel]
    #3413634 - 11/26/04 09:33 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

Sounds like your choke is screwing up. Have you checked that at all?
To install a manual choke (very simple) will have amazing effects, if that is the problem.
I'm thinking that the spring is sprung, make sure the carb and everything is tight, take a piece of air hose or something, put one end up to your ear while probing in and around the engine (be careful of moving parts) with the other, any other leaks will stick out like a sore thumb. :thumbup:
That's the first step, look for [vacuum] leaks.



Still foolin w/ this...:crazy:

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Edited by LouiseLouise (11/26/04 09:46 PM)


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3414371 - 11/27/04 12:45 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

First, Spray some WD-40 on the fast idle cam. Close the choke by opening the throttle and then close the choke. While holding the choke closed, let go of the throttle. itwill be on the fast step of the fast idle cam. Now open the choke then open the throttle. The fast idle cam should rotate to the normal idle position.If it is sticking in the fast idle position, Move it back and forth many times while the throttle is open to losen it up.
The slow idle problem when warm is the idle stop solenoid (anti dieseling solenoid). Either adjusted improperly or malfunctioning. It will move forward when the key is on and move back when the key is off.


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Mushit]
    #3414453 - 11/27/04 01:10 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

have you checked the floatin the carb. sometimes that little float can get messed up cause the metal rod that holds it in place can get rusted and not allow it to move properly.


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Phychotron]
    #3414465 - 11/27/04 01:13 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

its your sparkies and leads its missing a piston by the sounds of it replace them it will run like new


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Phychotron]
    #3414679 - 11/27/04 02:02 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

Get a can of carb cleaner and rev the motor up and hose down inside at a good idle till it almost dies, let it clear and redo a couple of times. Don't use wd40 as it contains oils that will sit in your carb, carb cleaner evaporates which is why it is used on carbs and not wd40. You also want to clean up the outside where the kickdown is and around the choke area. If that fails to help you want to buy a 10 dollar rebuild kit and a simple rebuild can work wonders. Most old back yard mechanics can rebuild it easy enough.


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Phychotron]
    #3414714 - 11/27/04 02:17 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

new car!


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: iluan]
    #3414961 - 11/27/04 04:02 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

i don't think mushit meant to spray WD40 into the carb, just onto the fast idle cam to lube it up a little while doing the adjustment.


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Phychotron]
    #3415039 - 11/27/04 05:15 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

it could be a float.


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: felix]
    #3415046 - 11/27/04 05:19 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

alright, i'll try that today after work, hopefully it will help. Thanks

oh, and in the PNW, it is pretty common for people to 'have to spray the outside of the carb with WD40 once a month to keep the white shit off the outside" .. .or so they tell me.


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Re: Help... Car Question... Carberator dying.. maybe... Help [Re: Phychotron]
    #3417547 - 11/27/04 11:09 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)

Yep. Thats what I meant, Felix.
If the post was read properly, "Spray WD-40 on the fast idle Cam" nobody would spray it in the Carb.
Float level will not cause this problem. It is choke related. I would say check the choke pull off, but it sounds like it is working.


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