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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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School Bars Declaration Of Independence
    #3410664 - 11/26/04 02:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1124041declar1.html


School Bars Declaration Of Independence


Teacher sues for right to use documents that reference God

NOVEMBER 24--A California teacher who teaches his fifth-grade students with the aid of primary source documents like the Declaration of Independence has been ordered by school administrators to stop using such artifacts of American history because the material contains references to God. In the below federal discrimination lawsuit, filed Monday in U.S. District Court, Steven Williams contends that brass at Cupertino's Stevens Creek School have recently rejected his use of "curriculum-related handouts" like the Declaration, various state constitutions, George Washington's journal, John Adams's diary, and writings by William Penn. Williams alleges that the San Francisco-area school's principal, Patricia Vidmar, banned the use of these handouts because "many original source documents from the founding era contain references to God and Christianity." Williams alleges that Vidmar cracked down on his lesson plans in May, shortly after he distributed an example of a presidential proclamation. The document he chose was one issued by President George W. Bush dealing with a National Day of Prayer. Williams, who describes himself as an "orthodox Christian," states in his complaint that he "understands and admits that he is not permitted to 'proselytize' or seek to convert his students to Christian beliefs during instructional time."


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3411250 - 11/26/04 05:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Oh fuck man, is this for real?

I don't even know how to reply because its just so retarded.

I support a very rigid separation of church and state. For example, I think God should be removed from the pledge, from money, etc.

But this is A HISTORY LESSON!!! GOD DAMNIT!!! They won't enforce the separation of church in state in the present, but god forbid we allow people to know that religious views existed in the past!!


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3411407 - 11/26/04 09:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Now dont get me wrong, I like seperation of church and state, but give me a fuckin break. There is a difference between teaching God and teaching History. He isnt preaching God all he is doing is giving the children some knowledge of American History, which was founded on religion. I live in California and I am very liberal, but this is absurd.


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3411417 - 11/26/04 09:34 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

there's got to be more to the story than that. thats just one side of the story.


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: Tao]
    #3411527 - 11/26/04 10:53 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I bet that's the only side to the story. Sometimes I really wish California would float away -- then we could focus on getting rid of NY and NJ, the only other states something like this could happen.

Idiotic. I doubt there would be many objections to dragging the principal out into the street and beating him.. not for keeping christianity down, I'm hardly religious, but for being an idiot. I'm very anti-idiot.


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3411704 - 11/26/04 11:52 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

there's got to be more to the story than that. thats just one side of the story.




If not proceed with the tar & feathers....


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3412696 - 11/26/04 04:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

how much you wanna bet they still get vacation and celebration for christmas...the celebration of a biblical character's birthday.


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3414299 - 11/27/04 12:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

before i clicked on this link i thought, "california?"

ah... california. absurd.


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: ]
    #3414532 - 11/27/04 01:34 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)


before i clicked on this link i thought, "california?"

ah... california. absurd.

Let's be a little more specific...something like this could only
happen in San Fransisco or Berkely.

:lol:


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3414546 - 11/27/04 01:36 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

God help this world.. Oh wait.. Can i say that?


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Re: School Bars Declaration Of Independence [Re: SporeDrinker]
    #3414565 - 11/27/04 01:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)


God help this world.. Oh wait.. Can i say that?

No, you aren't allowed to say that. You have violated Section 1(a)
of the political correctness code. You will receive a summons
in the mail.


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