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Beer and shrooms
    #340838 - 06/15/01 02:37 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I sometimes make my own beer and I was wondering if I could grow shrooms on the spent malted barley I use. Does anyone know of a good tek for this.



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Re: Beer and shrooms [Re: cyclone]
    #340847 - 06/15/01 02:50 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

It should work. Mix it with some vermiculite to achieve right moisture, then sterilize, inoculate and once colonized, case.
You should probably add some chalk also to correct the pH to neutral, since beer worth is slightly acidic.

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Re: Beer and shrooms [Re: cyclone]
    #341085 - 06/15/01 08:37 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

No this won't work, you flush out all carbohydrates.
As you maish the malted barley you let enzymes break down the starch in the malted barley, this is drained out while filtering the malted barley, the wort you recieve from it contains maltose and dextrines wich are formed in the breakdown process of the starch. So the maltose in the wort is metabolised to aclohol by yeast.
If you do this in a correct way, with maish temperatures, I'm sure you'll have some nutrients left but that is more cellulose rich than starch. The spent braley is used for cows in our country, but it's more for the cellulose. I suppose it could be used but I think less flushes and little thin shrooms!

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Re: Beer and shrooms [Re: paddoholland]
    #341217 - 06/15/01 12:33 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

> you'll have some nutrients left but that is more cellulose rich

Since cubensis grow on straw.......

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Re: Beer and shrooms [Re: Anno]
    #341233 - 06/15/01 02:09 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Your right about that, but as it's spent it will have left less nutrients to grow on than when using malted barley or barley.
I wonder (because I can get my hands on 50-100 kilo malted barley for free, once though) if cubies would grow on that 2.
I know that malted barley is much better 2 penetrate for nutrients than unmalted. Because enzymes break down the shelf of cellulose makes it more penetratable than unmalted, but as cellulose is used by mycelium also, this might not count.
Is there a malted barley tek, for water content?


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Re: Beer and shrooms [Re: paddoholland]
    #341251 - 06/15/01 03:49 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

you should definately give this a try, also might want to consider supplementing it with brf to replace some of the nutrients that may have been lost to the mash.
would be a good way to recycle the waste. but if it doesn't work out, just throw the waste into your garden, the plants will love it.

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