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SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT?
    #3407655 - 11/25/04 12:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I am wondering if anyone here is familiar with flying ointments? If so does anyone know if shrooms can be used in a flying ointment? It sounds plausible but, I don't know how the active compunds could be extracted into your base oil without destroying potency. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: MYCOFREAK]
    #3407658 - 11/25/04 12:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

unlock your caps lock - you're shouting dude!


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: MYCOFREAK]
    #3407719 - 11/25/04 12:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I've never heard of shrooms but i suppose it could be used. I had always heard flying ointments used belladonna/datura family plants though.


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #3408715 - 11/25/04 06:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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theorganicdomino said:
unlock your caps lock - you're shouting dude!




sorry about that i hope you've got earplugs! :mushroom2: :grin:


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: Entheocybe]
    #3408731 - 11/25/04 06:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Entheocybe said:
I've never heard of shrooms but i suppose it could be used. I had always heard flying ointments used belladonna/datura family plants though.




Yeah I know that belladonna/datura and such are the usuals.I guess I'm wondering if psylocybin/psylocin can be absorbed through the skin, and also how to extract these compunds into oils without using      :microwave: extreme heat.


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: MYCOFREAK]
    #3408768 - 11/25/04 06:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Go and edit it so people don't have to read it in caps.

Maybe even use some structure in your sentences.


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3409231 - 11/25/04 08:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Go and edit it so people don't have to read it in caps.

Maybe even use some structure in your sentences.




I don't mean to sound stupid, but what is the big problem with my post having been in Caps? I am new to this forum and have no problem changing it but, I don't understand why it was a problem.


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: MYCOFREAK]
    #3409326 - 11/25/04 08:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's annoying to look at, and read.


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: MYCOFREAK]
    #3409360 - 11/25/04 09:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ok. Sorry 'bout that.


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: MYCOFREAK]
    #3411166 - 11/26/04 05:05 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'm familiar with flying ointments, when in doubt, ask a Wiccan :wink:

Psilocybian Mushrooms were traditionally eaten in Europe just like the rest of the world. The smoked/inhaled powder of Don Juan is a blatant lie, in case you read it.

The only mushroom used in flying ointments was Amanita muscaria, which was/is the most basic Magic Mushroom of Europe. Too much and you're in deep trouble, or at least deep sleep.
Here's a little .gif from my recent field trip:



Amanita muscaria hunting & use is pretty safe if you know what you're doing but if you don't then it's potentially lethal. Some of the most poisonous mushrooms of the planet belong to the Amanita.

One yellowish Amanita muscaria can make you wander in a visionary world.
One yellowish Amanita phalloides can kill a family of two parents and four kids.


But you're talking about Psilocybian mushrooms. Hmmm.. Hypothetically it can be done. With Psilocybin, forget it. No way is that phosphoryl going anywhere. But if the phosphoric acid is cleaved off of Psilocybin to yield the unstable Psilocin (4-HO-DMT) it can likely be done as Psilocin likely can pass the skin barrier even though it's a zwitterion.

If you are merely looking for a method to bypass their taste it is far more fruitful to use the  Mushroom Capsule FAQ I wrote, because it's the best way to take mushrooms, or alternatively you can stick those mushrooms where the sun don't shine (aided by a little butter) because Psilocybin does cross the intestinal wall.

If you're serious about psilocybian mushroom flying ointment, and willing to risk skin rash, you can best blend the fresh mushrooms (or dried ones with water) into a lukewarm paste, and add a tablespoon of olive oil, so that the enzymes in the mushroom can strip the phosphoryl from the Psilocin and the psilocin dissolve in the olive oil. If you then after some hours add some more water the oil layer will float on top, which is your flying ointment.
Apply it to the usual places, being armpits, genital area and, again, where the sun don't shine.

This is a highly wasteful way to extract and use mushrooms and best left to experienced users.
You will likely miss the mark by far.

You have not got what it takes to dance with the Nightshade Demons so please don't experiment with Datura etc.

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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: Asante]
    #3412183 - 11/26/04 02:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for all of the info. It was very helpful. I think now that I will leave this idea to sometime in the future. I don't mind the taste, so that was not an issue, I just wondered if it were possible, as I regularly produce ointments/oils for various ceremonial and medicinal uses. But as I said I believe I will leave this one for sometime in the future...Thanks.


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Re: SHROOMS IN A FLYING OINTMENT? [Re: MYCOFREAK]
    #23050154 - 03/27/16 02:14 AM (9 months, 24 days ago)

Hey myCo freak . Where you ever able to make the flying paste ?  If so can you share it with me ,as I to am interested in this topic .
Thanks .


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