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InvisibleHeruuka
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Submersible or NOT?!!
    #3404382 - 11/24/04 05:04 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

K, i bought this "submersible aquarium heater" with a "waterproof seal" and... AND a maximum water level mark... WTF?! isn't that kindof a contradiction in terms? a "submersible aquarium heater" with a "waterproof seal" that cannot actually be submerged? The brand is THERMAL and its 100W, anybody have any experience with this heater? I figure that its either entirely false advertising, or that it could CONCEIVEABLY operate under water, but it is not advised.

Serious PITA to take this back too, hopefully you fellas have good news for me.

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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3404399 - 11/24/04 05:07 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

I think you got it wrong, IT must be submerged at least untill that indicationmark!! At least thats how my heaters work. For safety or that the glas wont burst or sumtin..

But if it says it can not be submerged then you are out.....


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3404440 - 11/24/04 05:17 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

So by that logic, all aquarium heaters are submersible cause I can't see a heater being terrifically effective if its not at least partially submerged... But then how do you know if a submersible heater is ACTUALLY FULLY submersible, if theres no indication on the package that would lead you to believe otherwise? I thought the fact that the heater would have to be partially submerged was a given.


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3404450 - 11/24/04 05:20 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

There are these morones who put a non submersible under water and lay a submersible in the dry sand, so for the fools amongst us its written at least submerse it somewhat.
To intelligent lights like you and me that can sound strange cause: OFCOURSE I will submerge it!

But read it good, if it says its submersible then ull be fine.

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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3404476 - 11/24/04 05:27 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_d...30238#belowFold

thats the heater i have, whats you thoughts? ambiguous or what?!


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3404478 - 11/24/04 05:28 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

The ones you want will say submergable. I'm not sure but maybe that's the difference.


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Tripster]
    #3404514 - 11/24/04 05:32 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

if its submersiable, it will not say "partialy submerciable" but even partials gotta have all the glass/metal heating element submerged in water or it will bust.


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Tripster]
    #3404560 - 11/24/04 05:39 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

haha! really?! submergable means fully submersible? Thats a serious bastardization of the english language, i hate it when language is misappropriated simply to cover up the monumental fuck up that is calling a non-submersible heater, submersible! WTF IS THIS WORLD COMING TOO??!! :laugh:

H-->  "but it said submersible on the package!"
HSP--> "yeah, subMERsible - it didn't say subMERGAble, what are you, an idiot?"
H-->  "that must be the problem"


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3404608 - 11/24/04 05:46 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

as far as i'm concerned, theres a specific definition of submersible- maybe i'm wrong. This is soo agrrivating! its like fuckin siberia out there!


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3404640 - 11/24/04 05:50 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

heres an even better example of what i'm talkin about

http://www.petluvers.com/Hagenf-14.html

Exact heater i have, cept mine is the 100w...completely sumbserible eh? well thats not what mister Hagen thinks...


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3404688 - 11/24/04 05:57 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

You are right, they are synonomous with each other.

sub?mers?i?ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sb-m?rs-bl)
adj.
Submergible.

n.
A vessel capable of operating or remaining under water.

submersible

adj : capable of being immersed in water or functioning while submerged; "a submersible pump"; "a submergible electric frying pan" [syn: submergible] [ant: nonsubmersible] n 1: an apparatus intended for use under water 2: a warship designed to operate under water [syn: submersible warship] [ant: surface ship]




sub?mer?gi?ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sb-m?rj-bl)
adj.
That can be immersed in or can remain under water: a submergible electric frying pan; a submergible research vehicle.

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sub?mergi?bili?ty n.

submergible

adj : capable of being immersed in water or functioning while submerged; "a submersible pump"; "a submergible electric frying pan" [syn: submersible] [ant: nonsubmersible]


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Tripster]
    #3404782 - 11/24/04 06:09 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

entirely synonymous. I hate how the corporate world jargon-izes perfectly simple common words like that. To even suggest that theres a difference is absurd, not to mention that something called submersible isn't necessarily that. I mean, i'd be wrong to say that i'm submersing myself by twiddling my big toe in a puddle, right?


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3405054 - 11/24/04 06:57 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

HEy chill, Just put it under the watersurface turn it on and see what happens. I think its ok, but you have to try it.

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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3405118 - 11/24/04 07:10 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

yeah, but i doubt they'll take it back if i do that and the thing cooks


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3405150 - 11/24/04 07:17 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Ok put it somewhere in a drawer and say goodbye to the thing... :grin:


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3405246 - 11/24/04 07:38 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

haha, shut it! :smile:

Turns out its some Canadian CSA thing, they like to see that written on all submersible heaters sold in Canada REGARDLESS of how submersible they are. I'm sure they'd also like to have us all walking around in helmets and knee pads as well. Its in the water now, and i'll get back with the results.


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3405298 - 11/24/04 07:54 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

I said it would be cool. Just chill friend! :laugh:

Mine is also submersible or whatever one calls it. But there is a minimun indicator on it, you must put it in the water at least a few inches untill that indicating line.

Youll be fine.

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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3406237 - 11/25/04 12:07 AM (13 years, 20 days ago)

everything looks okay, not quite the power i'd expected, might go trade it in for a 200 W beast


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3406335 - 11/25/04 12:25 AM (13 years, 20 days ago)

ok on incubators..can one doa heater bomb the fish tank heater water bottle,for a small insulated pouch that i have my karo jars in? its liek azipper one for storing cold drink..wa shtinking th insulation would help heat the area to temp..


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Re: Submersible or NOT?!! [Re: Heruuka]
    #3406955 - 11/25/04 03:23 AM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

Heruuka said:
heres an even better example of what i'm talkin about

http://www.petluvers.com/Hagenf-14.html

Exact heater i have, cept mine is the 100w...completely sumbserible eh? well thats not what mister Hagen thinks...




Thats the exact heater I have too. I put the whole thing underwater with no problems. My temperature gague got fried when the sensor got underwater tho.


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