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Offlinesunofogun
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rye jars dont shake well
    #3403554 - 11/24/04 02:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hey guys, im really enjoying how easy and fast the rye teks are. my problem is its real hard to shake the jars up almost like they get overlaid real fast. i shake between 25 and 50 percent and then when they look almost done.  i just spawned 10 pints with a bunch of straw and im worried that the rye isnt going to colonize 'cause they were like cakes and I had to break them up.  A couple weeks ago i cased some colonized rye and it did nothing!! whats wrong? :confused:


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Re: rye jars dont shake well [Re: sunofogun]
    #3403577 - 11/24/04 02:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

u should dunk.


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Re: rye jars dont shake well [Re: 4hodmt]
    #3403587 - 11/24/04 02:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

u think they dont have enough water? and also is there a way to dunk now? theres substrate and straw in layers


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Re: rye jars dont shake well [Re: sunofogun]
    #3403627 - 11/24/04 02:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Not sure what you mean, when it colonized the mycelium holds the rye together very well and you need to use a spoon to scoop it out. We need more details on what you did which the casings you made once you made them..every step and thing that you did so we can let you know where you went wrong. Shake the jars the first time after about 5-10%..dont wait to long you want to do it around day 5 (or once its been colonizing for about 2 days). Shake them really good, the few small peices of myc should break up easier and spread all around the jar then they'll start growing everywhere. If you spread it around well enough at this point you wont need another shake. If at about 50-60% you see that one side is colonizing and the other isnt then shake them up really good again and try and get the white stuff spread evenly everywhere.

You can add a teaspoon (someone will correct me if this is the wrong amount) of gypsum to your quart jars to make the kernals stick together less and if you add it when simmering it can help prevent over saturation. You'll need to ask someone else about it since I don't use it myself..I don't have a problem with my rye. I believe Prisoner said he adds it during the simmer. Also make sure the jars don't go to the top like in the PF Tek, you should only fill them up like 2/3 of the way so you have plenty of room to shake. Ive found pint jars are much easier to shake and colonize much quicker (of course), but a pain in the ass to do quanities of grain.

You said you spawned colonized rye to straw and you hope the rye will colonize? You just said it already was didnt you? If its not colonized it shouldnt be added to the straw. I hope you pasturized the straw correctly. If so the straw will colonize fine.

And theres no such thing as overlay when you talk of grains, straw, shit, or any other nutrient or substrate. Substrates should be FULLY solid white..just like a cake. A casing layer is non nutrious and should only have mycelium peeking through the surface throughout the surface and not become a solid white hard mess. Its trying to hold in moisture but wont do that if it becomes a solid mass of myc. This is overlay.

Hope this helps.


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