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Why is taking drugs "wrong?"
    #3402313 - 11/24/04 06:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I hear that some people think that taking drugs is wrong. Well, why is it wrong? Is taking Advil wrong? That's a drug. Honestly, what is so wrong about people choosing to do drugs?


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3402322 - 11/24/04 06:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

NOTHING! :smile:


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3402328 - 11/24/04 06:48 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You're asking members of a drug-related message board what is wrong with drugs?


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: ninjapixie]
    #3402343 - 11/24/04 06:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, I figured someone would mention that I'm preaching to the choir.  :wink:

But seriously...I'd like to understand the psychology of people who honestly believe that drugs are wrong.  Is it the DARE influence?  Morality?  Something else or all of the above?  I mean, it boggles my mind how someone could decide that doing drugs is "wrong."  I don't get it!

I know this is a rehashed topic, but I'd like to try and have a chance to understand the "other side."


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3402369 - 11/24/04 06:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ignorance and stupidity maybe.

Maybe people associate drugs with being illegal and therefore anything illegal is bad.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3402379 - 11/24/04 07:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It's the powerful promoting bad propaganda in an attempt to discourage any kind of drug that expands the mind or actually provokes individual thought process. Plus the long term effects of certain drugs can be very harmful and they don't want their slaves getting poorly now!


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3402464 - 11/24/04 07:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Drugs are illegal.  Some people think illegal = unquestionably wrong.  Or rather, they don't bother questioning the rightness or wrongness of it, and just let The Man think for them.

Religions may preach against drugs.  The first time humans tried to eat "The Food of the Gods" we were banished out of Eden.  :smile:

Drugs are a danger to oneself.  True in some cases.

Drugs are a danger to others.  True in some cases.

Danger to oneself or to others is of course reduced greatly with 'responsible use' but most people do not realize that such a thing exists.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3402568 - 11/24/04 08:15 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." -- Albert Einstein

Lots of people appear to latch on to "common sense". How many times have you heard the excuse "it's just common sense"?


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: trendal]
    #3402572 - 11/24/04 08:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

the rationale portrayed by the authorites is, that drugs cause people to do other illegal things.
why they have this rationale, im not sure.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3402620 - 11/24/04 09:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

because it doesn't fit the mold that this society wants. the media protrays that drugs=jail, and in fact it does. that's why it's wrong, cause you'll go to jail!

fear

a person on drugs is "less likely" to go to college. this of course is assumption, but hey you're asking why others think they are wrong.

many were told this, including myself...and many believ(ed) it, including myself. I mean, what child isn't going to trust their parents when they say something is wrong.

drugs with ignorance can also equal death. evidently, humans have a lot of that "ignorance" going around.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: kaiowas]
    #3402636 - 11/24/04 09:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

They have been considered wrong for a long time now, thanks in no small part to Christianity and Islam.

Some people see any form of non-sober mental state as unnatural, you always hear people saying "I don't think it's right to put something like that in my body".


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: deafpanda]
    #3402777 - 11/24/04 10:39 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Government dictates some people's morals.
Drugs=illegal=bad bad bad
Not socially acceptable, while drinking is (??)
Religion plays a role.

Kind of a shitty analogy (pun intended, youll see). My anatomy teacher one tiem said that a baby doesnt know playing with their own fecal matter is wrong and dirty until the parental units say it is. kinda like the DARE program or some other BS might engrave bad thoughts about drugs into kid's heads.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: druqks46]
    #3402928 - 11/24/04 11:31 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

some people really do have drug problems, coke, heroin, meth, etc etc, lots of peoples lives are ruined over drugs, lots of people regret doing drugs, and it's not only a because it's illegal, just look at the opium war in china, now i've done opiates many times in my life, not much any more because it does'nt really offer me much in a spiritual way, all i got was an amazing high and i feel I came close to ruining my life to it, luckily i got into religion and spirituality, and I decided to try to throw out the crap thats useless and only waste's my time and gets in the way of my goals, now i really only do opiates rarely, and when i do it's more of a sacred, rest type experiance, not because i wanna get fucked up and feel invincible for a few hours.

drugs are just like everything else in this world, they can be good, they can be abused, but most people are brainwashed by dare or anything else like that, but like ghandi said "you got to be the change you want to see in this world", so if you do drugs, be an example and show the world there not all bad, and if you don't do drugs, be an example to show you can go through life without them, no need to argue, just live it.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: deafpanda]
    #3402945 - 11/24/04 11:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

deafpanda said:
They have been considered wrong for a long time now, thanks in no small part to Christianity and Islam.

Some people see any form of non-sober mental state as unnatural, you always hear people saying "I don't think it's right to put something like that in my body".




sadly thats true, mainstream religion has had an effect on drugs and what society thinks of them, so much for the separation of church and state.  :rolleyes:

I feel I never broke the law by doing drugs, my rights were robbed from me, the government broke the law by robbing me of my freedom, so fuck them, anyways.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: JCoke]
    #3403255 - 11/24/04 01:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

I hear that some people think that taking drugs is wrong. Well, why is it wrong? Is taking Advil wrong? That's a drug. Honestly, what is so wrong about people choosing to do drugs?




This is a good question and one that I would have jumped on a couple of years ago. I was on the ANTI-DRUG band wagon and believed 99% of everything I had been told about drugs. Such things as "When you do drugs you become schizophrenic.", "Pot makes you lazy and stupid." and "Only idiots do drugs."

What changed my mind was that I began looking into why drugs were made illegal. What was the reason pot was and is illegal? What were the discussions in congress when the laws were passed? What was the issue that these laws were going to fix?

What I found was eye opening. The discussions were over things like the anti-war movement in the 60's and how to keep them in line. The earlier laws were passed because of perceived dangers. I also found LOTS of propaganda. Lots of BS on both sides!

As to why drugs are wrong, Most propaganda would have you believe that if you try drugs just once you will be hooked. A light drug (Pot) leads to heaver drugs as you work to maintain a level of contentment.Controle is the biggest part of it. Drugs appear to be an avenue of escape for the "Counter Cultures"  This would lead to a continuing downword spiral causing you to loose contact with reality and do anything to get the next fix. This leads to sin (Selling your body, stealing, killing, etc) and sin is wrong because GOD says so. At some point it was decided that because the Christians could not keep the masses in line they would need the governments help.

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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3403318 - 11/24/04 01:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This is a perfectly reasonable question..

I think when government starts making laws against plants and against activities that people have been doing for tens (hundreds?) of thousands of years, it starts making people wonder if law in general is worthy of obedience.


Drugs, regardless of what addicts will tell you, DO change people.
Modern government likes to keep people all "on the same page." This makes it much easier to control the masses, when they're all the same.

In this manner, drugs are illegal. It is not because "they are dangerous," otherwise they wouldn't sell guns at walmart and allow people to go skydiving and go scuba-diving with sharks and all that.... Cars are dangerous, but they're not illegal.

I've also heard Chris Rock's theory that they don't want you hooked on the kinds of drugs that Brown people produce and distribute....... They want you hooked on THEIR drugs, IE all the pharmacuticals (don't think I spelled that right..). That is big business, and god forbid they allow us to have ones that we can grow ourselves or purchase from a young prosperous black or hispanic fellow.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: Strumpling]
    #3403350 - 11/24/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

why is doing drugs wrong?

as long as they are done in a way that is not detrimental to your health or social life, they are not.


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3403456 - 11/24/04 01:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Honestly, what is so wrong about people choosing to do drugs?

You're preaching to the choir here. Go talk to these people:

http://www.freevibe.com/  :stoned:


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: MOTH]
    #3403540 - 11/24/04 02:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"Why is taking drugs "wrong"?

The illegal drugs have been covered here.

I would like to address the prescription drug issue.

While there is nothing morally wrong from going to the doctor and getting a prescripion, and unless you get caught with prescription drugs that don't belong to you, nothing illegal or immoral.

And, some prescription drugs are absolutely "right" depending on the patient and their needs.

BUT, prescription drugs are SO overprescribed by most doctors and that is just PLAIN WRONG. High cholesterol? Take Lipitor etc. before you change your diet or exercise.

The FDA and the drug companies with their lobbies and review process have created a very dangerous situation. The drug companies pay the FDA to review (and they hope to approve) new drugs. The conflict of interest is huge and Phen-fen and Vioxx are probably the tip of the iceberg. Many "new" drugs are really no more effective than their alternatives, yet with massive advertising and payoffs to doctors will be sold at huge profit. It's wrong morally, healthwise, and economically a giant scam.

Ever check out how many drugs many seniors take? Ten or more different medications every day is not unusual. Pretty scary. How can any doctor know what the interactions and true effects to health are given that many variables?


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Re: Why is taking drugs "wrong?" [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3418374 - 11/28/04 04:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

People fail to realize that alcohol is a poison and toxic to our body. So smoking a big fat ass blunt or tripping on shrooms effects you in a hramful way worse than that? What the fuck? Sounds like governments only source is profit. We can cultivate alcohol in any way but we can marijuana and shrooms. That would end up us making alot of money off of that. Damaging our economy. Marijuana would soon be taxed.


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