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 Re: Death Penalty/Abortion  [Re: Innvertigo]
#344733 - 06/19/01 09:42 PM (23 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm done even trying in this topic. I'll just close with this:
Whatever Invertigo, you know what I was trying to say. If you want to pick apart every little phrase and misconstrue it, fine. I don't give a fuck, but anyone can see that you are misconstruing the original intent of the post.
I wasn't flattering myself. It's just that we've argued 100s of times here, and you know my stance as a liberal/libertarian. That's all I was getting at. You wanna be an ass, fine.
And no, that was not desperation, it was called being fed up with people claiming to be open minded not even listening to the other side coupled with three consecutive 16 hr work days (manual labor, and today was the fourth so I'm tired as fuck). So fuck off.
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Re: Death Penalty/Abortion [Re: ]
#344984 - 06/20/01 06:07 AM (23 years, 3 months ago) |
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****I'm done even trying in this topic****
I was wondering how long it would take for you to see that this argument (discussed many times) is a big circle. Unfortunatly for you Science cannot solve everything and that my friend needs to be known before engaging in this sort of argument..though i give you credit.
****Whatever Invertigo, you know what I was trying to say****
Yeah i do know what you mean.......you're right and i'm closeminded...right?
****If you want to pick apart every little phrase and misconstrue it, fine****
Would you have me believe everything you say because you say it?.....this is where YOU'RE argument is degrading.
****I don't give a fuck****
Then why are you soooo pissed?
****It's just that we've argued 100s of times here****
no we haven't but next time i'll know you ;)
****and you know my stance as a liberal/libertarian****
This is a contradiction of titles. A liberal is NOT a Libertarian even though they look similar. I am a libertarian (maybe however on the right end of the libertarian scale...if there is one
****it was called being fed up with people claiming to be open minded ****
Or was it that your mad because i think your wrong?
****So fuck off.****
TSK TSK TSK....And you wonder why i don't take you serious. I will not reply in kind so i bid you farewell.
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Re: Death Penalty/Abortion [Re: Innvertigo]
#345938 - 06/21/01 10:43 AM (23 years, 3 months ago) |
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> ****I accept personal responsibility for all of my action. Social responsibility is another thing entirely. Perhaps you are confusing the two. ****
> No i'm not.....there are many who don't take responsibility for their actions.....
I see a dichotomy between social and personal responsibility. Personal responsibility is simply knowing, admitting (to yourself) or believing that you have free will and chose your own actions (esp. relevant when you've broken your own moral code).
Social responsibility is admitting to others that you've chosen a certain action.
I'm certain that most people take personal responsibility, but why bother taking social responsibility when that would just have negative ramifications (eg// in the case of criminal behaviour, that means you have to suffer legal consequences).
For example, I bet that you take personal responsibility for your drug use, but do you take social responsibility for it?
> ****"Common sense" is following others.****
> If your a socialist of liberal perhaps...
If it weren't "common" they wouldn't call it that. I really doubt that every human being would be led to the same "common sense" solutions if they lived in isolation. That's why "common" sense is following others. You're still relying on the judgement of others.
Also, you admit you're a Catholic. I think that has something to do with following others as well.
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Re: Death Penalty/Abortion [Re: Kid]
#345955 - 06/21/01 11:07 AM (23 years, 3 months ago) |
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What?...did you go on vacation or something?
****For example, I bet that you take personal responsibility for your drug use, but do you take social responsibility for it? ****
i think i'm missing your point. example. Mcveigh took personal resonsibility (ie: admitted it) as for social responsibility i think he did by telling others that were involved..
This is probably a bad example but i did say i was missing your point :)
****That's why "common" sense is following others****
True but as discussed before it varies from house to house and country to country.
****Also, you admit you're a Catholic. I think that has something to do with following others as well****
Just God
Relax, Relax, Relax.....it's just a little pin prick * there'll be no more AARRGGHHH!!!! but you may feel a little sick.....
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Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights
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Re: Death Penalty/Abortion [Re: Innvertigo]
#346274 - 06/21/01 08:52 PM (23 years, 3 months ago) |
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> What?...did you go on vacation or something?
yeah I went on vacation, no wait, that was work, sorry. (they pay me to sit on my ass and read)..
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Re: Death Penalty/Abortion [Re: Kid]
#346515 - 06/22/01 06:01 AM (23 years, 3 months ago) |
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****they pay me to sit on my ass and read****
You must work in a union then eh?...j/k
Relax, Relax, Relax.....it's just a little pin prick * there'll be no more AARRGGHHH!!!! but you may feel a little sick.....
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America....FUCK YEAH!!!
Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
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