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OfflineMoneyAddyct
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Anything to Initiate Pinning after 15 days?
    #3394143 - 11/21/04 08:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It's been 8 days before I put two cold-shocked/dunked and rolled cakes into my fruiting chamber. The temp. has been between 71-73F with an RH at 98% and light around 12-15hrs a day. So far there hasn't been any pinning whatsoever. Is there anything I can do to help initiate it?


Edited by MoneyAddyct (11/30/04 01:50 PM)


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3394157 - 11/21/04 08:49 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

it can take anywhere from 6-14 days maybe even longer it will come


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3394158 - 11/21/04 08:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Drop the humidity a bit and keep waiting, they will come.


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: shobimono]
    #3395200 - 11/22/04 07:43 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Just wait and you should not drop the humidity. Not only do cakes like high humidity but your humidity should be highest when the casings are waiting to pin. After pinning humidity can be dropped lower (to more like 90% with casings or 95% with cakes) to help with the mushrooms transpiration but its not needed and with a cake can cause the cake to dry out. To high is better then to low though. Be patient it can easily take up to two weeks. Make sure you fan as often as you can (4-10 times a day).


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3395667 - 11/22/04 10:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm using the PMP with two airstones and a pump. Do I still need to fan 4-10 times a day?


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3395695 - 11/22/04 10:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

NO that wil give you plenty of freash air

also 8 days in about adverage, maybey a little long

But I would just wait it out

Once it has been 15 days and no pins then you can freak out...LOL


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3395741 - 11/22/04 10:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

If it takes longer than 15 days,...light shock it...I don't really kno what else to call it but my last cake didnt birth until i "Light shocked it" with 24hrs of light from my 40watt....Then i went back to normal 12on/12 off andthe humidity is fine as long as there aren't any huge droplets on the cake, small ones that evaporate within a 12hr time frame aren't really going to hurt anything but permanent droplets suck.Waterlogg i guess u'd call it. Well some might disagree but in my case, it worked, if all else fails, ligh shock it or toss it or do w/e but I hope it births soon so that it relieves some tension, heh, Gl man later


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3395933 - 11/22/04 11:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i find taking it out of the fruiting chamber, and cold shocking it overnight, then putting it right back into the fruiting chamber can induce pinning on stubborn cakes/casings. but i've also had casings/cakes completely halt growth and pinning after being cold shocked AFTER they started to pin. i think too dramatic of a drop in temp once it starts pinning can result in complete abortion(made this term up).


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: amyloid]
    #3395941 - 11/22/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Lol, the termonology is Abhortion and yeah i totally fogot about that. Shocking it would pribably wake them babies up!
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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3395959 - 11/22/04 11:46 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

In the first few dozen grows it seems important to have pins with in a week. And it should be so, it's fun.

But after awhile it becomes less a big deal. So when the time comes to wait 3 weeks for pins then so what. That has only happpened to me once. But many times it has taken 12 -15 days. Usally 3-8 days

Smoke a fatty and just wait it out. LOL


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3395974 - 11/22/04 11:49 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

if i only had a fatty that lasted 3 weeks... =\


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: amyloid]
    #3396666 - 11/23/04 03:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

haha...I just got finished smokin a fatty


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3423195 - 11/29/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok...It's been 15 days and still no pins. 12/12 light, 71.6F, and 98RH. What more can I do?


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3423281 - 11/29/04 04:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It took one of my cakes 2 weeks to pin. Everything seemed right too. I dont know that there is much to do except keep waiting!


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: hollowellreid]
    #3427418 - 11/30/04 01:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Here are some more pics. All three cakes look like this. I know they're shitty pics, but it's the best I can do.





I don't think it's cobweb because it's BRIGHT white and hasn't spread all that much, but I don't know what it is and why I dont see any pins. Can anyone help?!


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3427521 - 11/30/04 01:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone?


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3427534 - 11/30/04 01:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I would double end case them, and keep the verm. moist they may be thirsty.


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3427562 - 11/30/04 02:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

MoneyAddyct said:
Here are some more pics. All three cakes look like this. I know they're shitty pics, but it's the best I can do.






I'm a complete noob, but that's what my cakes looked like last week. I'd pretty much given up on them. Yesterday I looked and some kind of strange growths on them. Bingo. Nice fat pins after a month or so.

But then, I'm growing in vitro and the jars are all over the house with no special care. It's probably only 65 to 68 degrees in here. Tough love.


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: ticktock]
    #3430038 - 11/30/04 11:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I did double-end case and roll. But I just misted. Hopefully that'll help. I need some shrooms already!


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Re: Anything to Initiate Pinning after 8 days? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3430201 - 11/30/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

you have more verm on those cakes than what i like to have, maybe the mycel just needs to colonise that and when it does, you will get a nice flush.

they will come.


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