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theocean06
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Research Chemicals
#3393378 - 11/21/04 03:35 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello, I am well aware of the RC bust that the DEA had a few months ago. I have found a site that is located outside of the United States (which of course I cannot and will not give since it would be breaking the rules) and was looking at ordering some 5-MEO-DMT. Now, I checked out Erowid for some legal information and it seems as if this is not a scheduled chemical, but could be considered one in certain situations. Just for reference, does 5-MEO-DMT have any sort of "real world" purpose? I have not come to a conclusion, and I am leaning towards the just-forgot-all-about-it side. I would still really like to give it a try, very much. There is that legal issue that is always just sitting there and makes me want to say no. I don't want to screw up my life just so have a thrill. Damn, it's like I'm trying to convince myself not to in this thread 
Yes or No...the only answer/question I can come up with is "is it really worth it?" - but it will require a little more thought.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: theocean06]
#3394033 - 11/21/04 06:06 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd probably avoid it for the time being. Give it some time. 5-meo isn't worth it. It's good, don't get me wrong, but DMT is available here, and IMO it's better. I wonder what the customs declaration on that would say? As far as I know, 5-meo-DMT doesn't have any use other than to impart beauty into your day. If you are angry, take a hit of 5-meo and you'll feel your anger lift off of you, leaving behind a beautiful feeling. Wait another 6 months or so, then if the site (I'm pretty sure I know the one you are referring to) is still around, I'd be more at ease trying it. Especially right now with the Christmas season, the postal service is even more keen on watching packages.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: Lifenergy]
#3394077 - 11/21/04 06:20 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Since it's Christmas season, I'd think they would be watching less packages, since there are huge amounts of packages going through, and it wouldn't be possible to look at all of them. And even if they do see it, I doubt they would investigate unless it's a large amount. theocean06: I've heard 5-meo-dmt is alright, but no screaming hell. I think most people enjoy 2c RCs more (2C-I, 2C-E etc). Edit: I was wondering (since this isn't against the rules), which country the company is in?
Edited by HeavyToilet (11/21/04 06:21 PM)
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Lifenergy
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Not exactly sure as to the country. There are two legit ones that I know of still open. Both are in Europe I believe. Only one will ship to Canada. Both are really expensive, too.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: Lifenergy]
#3394227 - 11/21/04 07:05 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh really? Hmmmhh.
It's strange that that one American one (that will stay nameless), is still open, and the website doesn't have the DEA message on it anymore.
I've thought about emailing them and asking them what the deal is, and if they'll still ship to Canada or not.
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theocean06
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: Lifenergy]
#3394254 - 11/21/04 07:13 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, the place I know of is in China - and I don't know of anyone who has ordered from them, but that doesn't really mean anything, since I don't any people who know what RC's are and have not talked to anyone on this site who has ordered from them.
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Lifenergy
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: theocean06]
#3394269 - 11/21/04 07:18 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I've seen a couple of ones from China. It's just so damn hard to understand the sites, and their emails are near incoherent IME. I wouldn't trust any company in the USA anymore. Not worth the risk.
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theocean06
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: Lifenergy]
#3394287 - 11/21/04 07:24 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, the site is in English and the email/contact information is very easy to read so I don't know
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Edited by theocean06 (11/21/04 07:34 PM)
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Lifenergy
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: theocean06]
#3394291 - 11/21/04 07:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hmm, maybe I don't know who you are talking about.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: theocean06]
#3394653 - 11/21/04 08:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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you would probably have no problems with customs/postal service itself. I would be more concerned about actually receiving your package from the company in the first place - lots of scammers out there. is 5meo worth it? not really.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: Vvellum]
#3394842 - 11/21/04 09:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think there are many research chemical scammers. If you do a search on Google, there's pretty much no more companies that sell it. Maybe a few that are in different countries.
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I've heard of people sending money to overseas companies and never receiving anything. buyer beware.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: Vvellum]
#3526350 - 12/21/04 12:32 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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any recent successes in ordering rc's out there? - nameless, of course. I found a site w/ 2C-E, 2C-I, 4-HO-DET, 4-AcO-DiPT(my all-time fave, 3 hours of the cleanest, most welcoming visual/spiritual shit ever), and 5-MeO-DMT (no thank you - the taste is just too awful) - so very eager to proceed to ordering stage, yet nervous. If I could just find ONE head out there who's successfully ordered recently, I would go forward.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: rigwood]
#3526622 - 12/21/04 03:32 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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> any recent successes in ordering rc's out there?
Donno, why not go ask the DEA and see what they say...
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Ive spoken to many people who have had previous contact with the owner of the supplier your refering too, and there is no response, and theories are going around either about a DEA sting (very unlikely, but possible.), or that his site just hasnt been taken down. A couple suspicious things to point out - would be his price's, and lack stock levels.
beware.
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Lifenergy
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: headset]
#3526673 - 12/21/04 04:57 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Let me warn you. There is a RC site which is still up, but not sending orders out. It was a popular one with low prices. Well, I had sent a money order to it just before the big bust. So my money order was in transit when the bust occured. I freaked and contacted the money order place as soon as possible to try and get a refund (I had sent close to $300). Here is what they wrote me:
"Dear Customer, Thank you for your email. You will need to contact Warren Rivera or Lisa Gigante with the US Department of Justice to inquire about a refund. There phone number is 225-389-0254. If you have additional questions, please contact us by email or call 1-800-542-3590. Sincerely, MoneyGram International Customer Service"
Did a little research and found out that Warren Rivera and Lisa Gigante are agents with the Baton Rouge office of the DEA. So that sucks. No refund for me. Needless to say, there are no illegal materials inmy home and won't be for a long time. Be warned, if you are talking about the site I think you might be, DON'T ORDER ANYTHING!!! The DEA is watching all RC's very very closely. Peace.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: Lifenergy]
#3529178 - 12/21/04 08:06 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Man, I feel bad for everybody who didn't/couldn't jump on the RC bandwagon a few years ago when it was hot stuff. There were a number of friendly, in the US, companies that had all the stuff at very good prices. Everybody kept saying, "These aren't gonna stay legal for long, so get in while the gettin's good". Needless to say, most of the RCs weren't worth their weight in salt unless you couldn't get any other drugs to begin with. 5-MeO is NOT worth risking ANYTHING over. I've met maybe 1 or 2 people who thought it was worth doing once or twice. ALOT of people find it too intense, with NO visuals, and very miserable to experience.
Now, 2C-T-7 is where it's at. 2C-B has always been illegal, so you could never buy it as a RC. 2C-T-7, however, is the next best thing. My friends and I used to buy it by the gram to share amongst ourselves. If you're not too much of a pussy to handle the first 20 minutes after snorting it, then I can easily say it blows any amount of LSD, Mushrooms, Mescaline or Ecstasy out of the water in terms of the trip intensity and cool factor. It is a TRUE pity that 2C-T-7 is illegal. When all the RCs were legal, you could buy 2C-T-7 at Amsterdam smartshops in 10mg pills called Mystic Blue, I believe. They would also mail them over here if you asked. Oh well, I'm depressing myself by just talking about this.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: Alternity]
#3529420 - 12/21/04 09:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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The 2cT series was one of the main reasons that attention was drawn to the RC market, and that was primarily because they killed people.
And the 2c-x series is much more analogous to the 2c-B experience, and a whole hell of a lot safer.
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2ct7 was crazy. Snorting it hurt like a motherfucker.
I kinda miss AMT. I tried that shit 6 diffrent times with little to no desireable effect. Then I upped the dose significantly, and this "alright, but i got a headache" drug turned into my poison. 3 Days of heaven left me a little out of it.
On a side note, I do not think the DEA will spend the time to investigate small amounts. Is this for personal usage? I know people who have had mail parcels confinscated coming from Europe with 50+ MDMA Pills in it. All they recieved was a letter from customs saying it was taken due to illegal drugs. No problems to this day.
I personally do not believe that they would come knockin at your door for anything less than massive quantity.
I think most the people who were watched from RC's were those buying hundreds of grams of analogues.
If you have anything you want to hide though, dont risk it. While they cannot, or really shouldnt charge you for some 5meodmt, it would suck if they did stumble upon your 5,000,000 lb a year marijuana farm, etc.
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Re: Research Chemicals [Re: tak]
#3533862 - 12/22/04 10:12 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, if it's from overseas, you won't get in legal trouble. Just a customs note, nothing more. It's just a royal waste of money is all.
<rant> It's annoying that so many retards died off of 2C-T-7. People would snort a tiny Heroin sized bump of the pure shit and drop dead. I mean christ, do these idiots snort anything without knowing that >10mg can kill you in the most nightmarish way possible? Half the people who died knew they were doing T-7, some crazy experimental research chemical, and continued to take it without knowing anything about it. If it wasn't for those fools, perhaps it'd still be legal for the rest of us responsible adults. </rant>
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