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Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
#3392720 - 11/21/04 10:42 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Old news but it just caught my eye I laughed so hard in discust I felt the need to post it..
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1035353.htm
Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize Two of the architects of the Iraq war, United States President George W Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, are among nominees for the 2004 Nobel Peace Prize.
Nominations for the prestigious award close tomorrow.
After sending thousands of soldiers to war and failing to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Mr Bush and Mr Blair have been put forward to receive the Nobel peace prize.
They were nominated by Jan Simonsen, an independent member of Norway's Parliament who says the pair got rid of a dictator and made the world safer.
"Bush and Blair definitely still deserve it," he said.
"Even though they haven't found those weapons they got rid of a dictator and made the world more safe. They got rid of a madman."
Saddam's alleged weapons of mass destruction were a main justification for the war.
Nobel watchers say neither Mr Bush nor Mr Blair has much chance of winning.
Other nominees are varied and include: Pope John Paul II; the European Union to mark its expansion to include former East bloc states; the Salvation Army; former Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler; former Czech president Vaclav Havel; former Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic; and Chinese dissidents.
The 2003 prize went to Iranian human rights lawyer Shirin Ebadi from a record field of 165 nominees.
The prize winner is announced in October.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: usefulidiot]
#3392727 - 11/21/04 10:46 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: deafpanda]
#3392730 - 11/21/04 10:49 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Other nominees are varied and include: Pope John Paul II; the European Union to mark its expansion to include former East bloc states; the Salvation Army; former Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler; former Czech president Vaclav Havel; former Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic; and Chinese dissidents.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Tao]
#3392772 - 11/21/04 11:13 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: usefulidiot]
#3392780 - 11/21/04 11:18 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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While I agree the prospect of either of them winning a Peace Prize of any sort is laughable, the bias in that article is pretty ridiculous.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: usefulidiot]
#3392995 - 11/21/04 12:39 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't understand how people can be so fucking stupid.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: usefulidiot]
#3393079 - 11/21/04 01:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yasser Arafat was not only nominated for a Nobel peace Prize, he was actually awarded one. If Yasser freakin' Arafat can win one, the door's wide open for just about anyone.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Phred]
#3393789 - 11/21/04 05:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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has everybody forgotten that great beacon of peace and human rights that once won the nobel prize?
good ol' Henry Kissinger... fuckin' war criminal....
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Krishna]
#3393869 - 11/21/04 05:29 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, Kissinger did a lot for Democracy by his work opposing communism.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Great_Satan]
#3393944 - 11/21/04 05:42 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kissinger did a lot of work for facism by overthrowing the democratically elected president of Chile, Salvador Allende. And bringing war to neutral nations (Laos and Cambodia). And supporting the genocide of the population of east Timor. And deliberate collusion in mass murder, and later in assassination, in Bangladesh. And the personal involvement in a plan to murder the head of state in the democratic nation of Cyprus. And the personal involvement in a plan to kidnap and murder a journalist living in Washington, DC.
you know, I don't really expect much out of you, Great_Satan - but come on!
http://www.eclipse.net/~tgardnet/kiss/kisskill.html - a good compendium of articles on Kissinger.
http://www.zpub.com/un/wanted-hkiss.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/HKissinger.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/Trial_Kissinger_Hitchins.html - the full text of Christopher Hitchens book, "The Trial of Henry Kissinger"
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: usefulidiot]
#3394034 - 11/21/04 06:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't remember me of hearing something so stupid ...
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: usefulidiot]
#3394041 - 11/21/04 06:08 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
usefulidiot said: They were nominated by Jan Simonsen, an independent member of Norway's Parliament
Jan Simonsen, by the way, was kicked out of the ultra-right wing Fremskritt-Partiet after accusations of his using government influence to get a friend a license to sell liquor.... take my opinion for what it is, but Simonsen is a facist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Simonsen
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: usefulidiot]
#3395842 - 11/22/04 09:19 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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heh, this reminds me of the famous slogans in 1984:
War is Peace
Ignorance is Strength
Freedom is Slavery
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: chodamunky]
#3395862 - 11/22/04 09:24 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shhhhh...Big Brother is watching.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Phred]
#3396452 - 11/23/04 12:02 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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If Yasser freakin' Arafat can win one, the door's wide open for just about anyone. Except Yasser got his for agreeing a peace deal, not launching an illegal war on the basis of ludicrous lies about WMD and slaughtering thousands of women and children.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Xlea321]
#3397422 - 11/23/04 08:23 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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> Except Yasser got his for agreeing a peace deal
Too bad his heart wasn't into the agreement. I would loan a crackhead money before believing that Arafat actually wanted peace with Isreal.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: usefulidiot]
#3397551 - 11/23/04 09:13 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have never heard this until this moment.
Be right be
I have to go throw up
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Xlea321]
#3397856 - 11/23/04 10:45 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alex123 writes:
Except Yasser got his for agreeing a peace deal...
Which he had no intention of ever honoring and in fact never did honor. By the same criterion, Saddam Hussein should have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for agreeing to a conditional ceasefire which he had no intention of honoring and in fact never did honor.
"Agreeing" means nothing. Words are cheap. Actions count.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Seuss]
#3397861 - 11/23/04 10:47 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Too bad his heart wasn't into the agreement
It was certainly the most craven surrender to Israel imaginable.
I would loan a crackhead money before believing that Arafat actually wanted peace with Isreal.
Why agree to such a craven surrender if you didn't want peace?
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Phred]
#3397865 - 11/23/04 10:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Arafat backed out later because Israel didn't hold up to the middleground where they were supposed to meet.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: zahudulallah]
#3397875 - 11/23/04 10:51 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bullshit.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Phred]
#3397879 - 11/23/04 10:52 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Which he had no intention of ever honoring and in fact never did honor Evidence? Saddam..blah..blah...and in fact never did honor. Then where are the WMD?
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Phred]
#3397913 - 11/23/04 11:05 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's so un-like you to be barking moon bats, pinky.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: zahudulallah]
#3399133 - 11/23/04 03:18 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your claim was that Israel violated the agreement before Arafat. Back it up or admit it's bullshit.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Phred]
#3399432 - 11/23/04 04:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's common knowledge that Israel refused to include East Jerusalem in the peace process. This is why Arafat rejected the 2000 proposal - because Israel did need meet half way; literally in Jerusalem.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Krishna]
#3399477 - 11/23/04 04:47 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Krishna said: Kissinger did a lot of work for facism by overthrowing the democratically elected president of Chile, Salvador Allende. And bringing war to neutral nations (Laos and Cambodia). And supporting the genocide of the population of east Timor. And deliberate collusion in mass murder, and later in assassination, in Bangladesh. And the personal involvement in a plan to murder the head of state in the democratic nation of Cyprus. And the personal involvement in a plan to kidnap and murder a journalist living in Washington, DC. you know, I don't really expect much out of you, Great_Satan - but come on! http://www.eclipse.net/~tgardnet/kiss/kisskill.html - a good compendium of articles on Kissinger. http://www.zpub.com/un/wanted-hkiss.html http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/HKissinger.html http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/Trial_Kissinger_Hitchins.html - the full text of Christopher Hitchens book, "The Trial of Henry Kissinger"
He didn't do any of those things. That's just more conspiracy nonsense which was thought up to make money off of conspiracy books and articles. Just like with Michael Moore. Michael Moore and others like him get rich selling lies to gullible people.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: zahudulallah]
#3399508 - 11/23/04 04:53 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Great_Satan]
#3399847 - 11/23/04 06:13 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Great_Satan said:
Quote:
Krishna said: Kissinger did a lot of work for facism by overthrowing the democratically elected president of Chile, Salvador Allende. And bringing war to neutral nations (Laos and Cambodia). And supporting the genocide of the population of east Timor. And deliberate collusion in mass murder, and later in assassination, in Bangladesh. And the personal involvement in a plan to murder the head of state in the democratic nation of Cyprus. And the personal involvement in a plan to kidnap and murder a journalist living in Washington, DC.
you know, I don't really expect much out of you, Great_Satan - but come on!
http://www.eclipse.net/~tgardnet/kiss/kisskill.html - a good compendium of articles on Kissinger.
http://www.zpub.com/un/wanted-hkiss.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/HKissinger.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/Trial_Kissinger_Hitchins.html - the full text of Christopher Hitchens book, "The Trial of Henry Kissinger"
He didn't do any of those things. That's just more conspiracy nonsense which was thought up to make money off of conspiracy books and articles. Just like with Michael Moore. Michael Moore and others like him get rich selling lies to gullible people.
Read the Christopher Hitchens book... one of his main sources are de-classified documents that were made available by the Freedom of Information act. He provides references so that you can check out the documents yourself - things like telephone transcripts, letters, etc that definitely implicate Kissinger in every one of the crimes I mentioned. I certainly am not a "gullible" person - but when the CIA documents show that Kissinger did, for example, give arms to opposition generals in Chile, and then directly told them that the united states would support a coup against Allende - sorry, but the facts speak for themselves. Or do you not care about the facts?
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Krishna]
#3400035 - 11/23/04 06:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
For some actually unbiased information on Kissinger, read that.
As far as his reputation goes, he did commit a lot of unsavory acts, but if your going to try and justify Yassers recieving of the Nobel Peace prize over his, well he recieved it for negoatiating a peace treaty as well.
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: SweetLeaf]
#3400067 - 11/23/04 07:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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i didn't, and don't justify Arafats receiving the Peace Prize either (but that is a whole 'nother story)... I was just making the claim that the Nobel Prize for Peace doesn't mean jack-shit...
But, I do agree that the sources I posted were quite one-sided... that wikipedia entry does a good job of summarizing both the charges against him, and his response to those charges.
"I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people." H. Kissinger on the coup to overthrow Allende
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: Krishna]
#3400269 - 11/23/04 07:44 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I never accused you of stating that Yasser's win was better then Kissinger, but it was more of a general statement.
Yeah, wikipedia is damn good...
hehehe, this ones better...
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Re: Bush, Blair nominated for Nobel Peace Prize [Re: SweetLeaf]
#3400757 - 11/23/04 09:33 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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i remember watching on TV Arafat and barrack argue who should go into the door first, and poor Clinton had to help them work it out.. i new from that moment "peace" was fucked.
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