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Seeding wild enoki
    #3340347 - 11/10/04 05:58 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

last autumn/winter I have found a single patch of wild enoki (Flammulina velutipes) when going for a walk along a river.
I took some of the older mushroom caps and smeared them onto the cuts of stumps and logs along the way.
This year - just when the first snow hit the valley - everywhere patches of these enoki are appearing.
Here are some pics of them:



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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: ragadinks]
    #3340464 - 11/10/04 07:23 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Cool work, Raga--I hope you enjoy enoki--looks like you have plenty for the picking.

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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: ragadinks]
    #3340533 - 11/10/04 07:52 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

simply amazing! real lazy man's way to cultivate mushies.  :smile:

did you made those cuts yourself and what kind of trees are they?
are they alive? here enokis grow mainly on willows...

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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: Speeker]
    #3340546 - 11/10/04 08:00 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

> simply amazing! lazy man's way to cultivate mushies.
yeah, was really not a lot of work :smile: - picking, cooking and eating will be more time consuming then cultivating :wink:.

> did you made those cuts yourself and what kind of trees are they?
> are they alive? here enokis grow mainly on willows...
Most of the trees are willows or birch that grow along the riverside.
I did not make the cuts myself - this was done by the workers of the community.
They cut the trees each spring when they get too big.

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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: ragadinks]
    #3341570 - 11/10/04 12:55 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

fabulous, raga!

you dinked again! :laugh: :laugh:


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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: shirley knott]
    #3342839 - 11/10/04 05:00 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

you are also good with a camera.


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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: ragadinks]
    #3345611 - 11/11/04 06:12 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I retrieved some willow logs from down by the river this last year and inoculated them with oyster, but oyster isn't what's growing out of them:











Is this enoki? I was pissed when oysters didn't come out of these logs but I'd be pleased if it was another edible.


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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: Fungushead]
    #3345825 - 11/11/04 08:40 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, this looks very much like enoki !
BTW: they have a white spore print - just to make sure !
Nice find ...

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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: ragadinks]
    #3381560 - 11/18/04 08:26 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

How did that spore print work out?was it white?


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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: Peterthinks]
    #3382608 - 11/19/04 01:18 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

This year I have not taken any spore prints, but last year I did and they were white.
Here is a picture of a spore print of another (cultivated) strain of enoki:


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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: ragadinks]
    #3389410 - 11/20/04 02:06 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

That's cool!
what do they call that when the gills are 3 different lengths?
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you know some go from edge to stem
some go 2/3 of the way and
some go 1/3 towards the stem from the outside.


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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: Peterthinks]
    #3389480 - 11/20/04 02:28 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Mine turned out all white as well, I was quite pleased. I still need to find a good recipe for them, they were a bit bitter with my steak.


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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: Peterthinks]
    #3392309 - 11/21/04 05:51 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

> what do they call that when the gills are 3 different lengths?
I do not know what that is called and if there is a special name for that at all.
But maybe the people in the mushroom hunting forum know more ? I will have to ask them ...

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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: Fungushead]
    #3392330 - 11/21/04 06:12 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

> I still need to find a good recipe for them, they were a bit bitter with my steak.

I like mine best in soups or sauces cause they have a kind of slimy consistence like in the asian soups that I like very much.
On google you get a lot of recipes:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&q=enoki+recipe
And especially here are some:
http://www.enoki.dk/gb/gb.htm
When they were bitter they were probably too old ?
In professional indoor production of enoki they put a kind of collar around the growing containers so that the mushrooms develops a long stem and small caps and a pale color.
Have found these links about indoor production:
http://www.knet.co.za/mushrooms/specialisedcult.htm#Plastic
http://www.world-mushroom.com/enoki/e_enokitake.htm

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Re: Seeding wild enoki [Re: Fungushead]
    #3392670 - 11/21/04 10:07 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I think you're only supposed to use the caps,the stems aren't worth eating.


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