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"Gods loves us".....but why?
    #3387862 - 11/20/04 06:02 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

All my life I've been told, "God loves you." But why?

Why does God love us? I mean, what does God get out of it, do you think?


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: MOTH]
    #3387872 - 11/20/04 06:12 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Because god is not a humanoid. We personify god for the sake of ease of relating the concept.

In actuality, "god" "loves us" because god is the source of all that is. It is the reason we have life and consciousness.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: MOTH]
    #3387875 - 11/20/04 06:14 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

God loves us because this instills certain people with a sense of acceptance and appreciation that otherwise would not be there, as these people are not able to simply accept and appreciate who they  are without creating an illusion to fufill this need.

As far as "Why does God love us?", I would contend that the "why?" should be preceded with "What is God?", "Does it actually exist?", and "How do I know it loves me?" :grin:

Of course, I am simpy overstating the obvious. :wink: Time to go play with the puppy. :laugh:  :heart:

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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3387891 - 11/20/04 06:37 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

I think God's an alien.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: MOTH]
    #3387925 - 11/20/04 06:58 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

God is all that exists. Therefore God is angry at us as well. He/she lashes out as us with volcanic eruptions and big hurricanes.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: MOTH]
    #3387928 - 11/20/04 07:02 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

God is superconscious. (S)he's aware of us, has watched us grow from childhood, and is aware of our own need to be loved. Awareness is the Key to Love.

Some people may not need that love - but I do. Without God - well, I can't imagine. My personality is built to love God. I was atheist for maybe a period of three years when I was around 15 to 17. At 18 I forfeited myself to God's love, around the same time I was doing psychedelics for the first time which created an interesting esoteric mix that one would expect to come later in life.

Needless to say atheists are simply missing out on alot of love - but they don't need it, so all is good.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: MOTH]
    #3387940 - 11/20/04 07:08 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

In short, God loves us because He is God. If he didn't, he wouldn't be God. That's why God is perfect.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3387942 - 11/20/04 07:09 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

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Without God - well, I can't imagine.




no shit!


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: ]
    #3387963 - 11/20/04 07:15 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

What's that supposed to mean.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3387984 - 11/20/04 07:21 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

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Droz said:
God is all that exists. Therefore God is angry at us as well. He/she lashes out as us with volcanic eruptions and big hurricanes.




:rolleyes:

Volcanic eruptions and hurricanes are manifestations of God's fury lashing out at us?  :nonono:

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At 18 I forfeited myself to God's love, around the same time I was doing psychedelics for the first time which created an interesting esoteric mix that one would expect to come later in life.




That is, you forfeited yourself to your own love and, for some reason, believed the love was coming from "God".

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Needless to say atheists are simply missing out on alot of love - but they don't need it, so all is good.




Ja, atheists are indeed missing out on a lot of love that they could be creating for themselves... or perhaps they aren't missing out on it at all... perhaps they just don't claim the love is coming from anything but themself. :wink:

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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3387999 - 11/20/04 07:27 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

So Fireworks God, where would they come from if not from God.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3388012 - 11/20/04 07:33 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Is that you in your signiture?

I really like your puppy.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: MOTH]
    #3388065 - 11/20/04 07:52 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

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So Fireworks God, where would they come from if not from God.




Well, if you take the view that everything is of God, then, subsequently, volcanoes and hurricanes would come "from" "God". :wink:

In any case, there are real, observable, knowable causes of hurricanes and of volcanoes. Believe it or not, but there are people who center their entire lives around the study of these natural phenomenon. A volcano is born when the magma inside the Earth builds up pressure and emerges through cracks in the Earth's surface. I don't know what specifically creates a hurricane, but I know it involves different areas of pressure and of different temperature coming into contact. I'd suggest Googling it. :grin:

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EllemyshShade said:
Is that you in your signiture? 

I really like your puppy.




Ja, that is me, holding my new Norwegian Elkhound pup, Odin. :wink:

I just discovered that the poor fella has worms  :frown:, I have to look into taking him to a vet (he was getting taken in anyways, since I just got him and he needs a checkup and all).

Cutest puppy I've ever seen!  :laugh:

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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3388070 - 11/20/04 07:54 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

God is wholly other. The superconsciousness and we are consciousness. I hear people say "we are gods" all the time - but you can tell if they are just being egocentric or not. A friend of mine one time couldn't shut up about his "creative powers" after reading NITBITBIEHTA (acronym) by Bob Frissell. Not everyone who claims "have God within" is actually accurate. Some people have a purely egocentric idea of Eastern spirituality. It's like Rumi's story about the Pharoah and Hallaj. Both claimed to be God - however one assertion was filled with ego and duality while the other was filled with Truth and non-duality.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3388104 - 11/20/04 08:10 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

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Not everyone who claims "have God within" is actually accurate. Some people have a purely egocentric idea of Eastern spirituality. It's like Rumi's story about the Pharoah and Hallaj. Both claimed to be God - however one assertion was filled with ego and duality while the other was filled with Truth and non-duality.




But if God is super-consciousness, and we humans have consciousness, thereby an extension of God, does it matter what we claim, even if it is an assertion filled with filled with ego and duality? If being conscious is having God within, then everyone has God within, no matter what people claim with that.

On that note, how does superconsciousness (my guess is that this means some ultimate, central consciousness that all consciousness is derived from) give love to people who are conscious? Pure consciousness exists beyond thought and therefore is empty and without form. It requires some sort of structure powered by that consciousness (i.e. a mind) to be able to be aware that one is aware and to offer or experience love. Pure awareness is the silent observer that sustains life, but that pure awareness is empty and formless, like water. Any feeling of love while under the influence of consciousness is derived from oneself and their mind. :grin:

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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3388132 - 11/20/04 08:23 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Ask Markos.  :smirk:


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3388155 - 11/20/04 08:34 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

"I just discovered that the poor fella has worms , I have to look into taking him to a vet (he was getting taken in anyways, since I just got him and he needs a checkup and all).

Cutest puppy I've ever seen! "


You take a good care of him now


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3388171 - 11/20/04 08:39 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

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Ask Markos.  :smirk:




Indeed. :lol:

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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3388253 - 11/20/04 09:51 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

If you knew everything about your friend, you would have total understanding of him and love him. Love is kind of a natural state of mind. Lack of love comes from lack of understanding.
And since god is everything, he understands everything, and therefore loves everything.


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Re: "Gods loves us".....but why? [Re: skystone]
    #3388284 - 11/20/04 10:09 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

""All my life I've been told, "God loves you." But why?""

that is why, but, gods love, is lost in translation, it could really mean "creation Love's everything", and is really telling you to share the love you should feel for yourself, as for anyone? :P


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