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Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas
    #3384889 - 11/19/04 04:58 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I found a field ripe with mushrooms that could be Copelandia, but I'm not sure. They have the exact description of everything I've found in size, location, color, spore color and growing conditions, but some of my fried brewed some tea from them while they were wet and felt absolutely nothing.

Is there a mushroom that looks and grows like Copelandia that does absolutely nothing?


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3384919 - 11/19/04 05:03 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

yes, there are copelandia lookalikes, but if the description fits perfectly and they stained a potent blue, you've near 100% got a cope cyan.. how many wet grams was it? how many people drank the tea ?

you probably didn't consume enough, and i've read that adding immense heat[aka boiling for tea] actually oxidizes some psilocybin or some shit.. so quantity and heat might have ruined your potential trip..

i've read some places that that theory = the truth, but some people swear brewing doesn't affect shrooms potency


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3384954 - 11/19/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

They all consumed about what would be 3 grams each if they were dry; I didn't weigh them while they were wet.


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3384969 - 11/19/04 05:10 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I can't understand why anyone would boil perfectly good cope cyans. In any case, boiling them wouldn't kill all the magic unless you boiled the hell out of them for a long time. I'd guess they were something else non-active. Did they actually stain blue? Copes will blue heavily when barely touched. And it's an obvious blue, not gray.


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: newusername222]
    #3384979 - 11/19/04 05:12 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I guess they aren't copelandida, because they didn't blue intensely. When they bruised, some of the big caps blued, but the rest kinda turned black/purple.


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3384986 - 11/19/04 05:13 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

well, one of 2 things happened here:

1. you ate an unidentified mushroom that wasnt a cope cyan

2. you boiled them. psilocybin is a heat-sensitive molecule. it would be destroyed in this heat.

to make tea you must boil the water, then wait a little bit before steeping the mushrooms in the water.

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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3384991 - 11/19/04 05:14 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

What part of TX. I'm in southwest LA and have been finding copes. I see a lot of look alikes with them though. So, maybe you had some actives but a lot of inactives. You need to learn how to distinguish them and then there's little question.


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: newusername222]
    #3385007 - 11/19/04 05:18 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Im in Central Texas, and the field I used is near College Station.

Well I picked them on Wed Night and picked indscrimnately in size. But last night I went to adjacent field and picked only ones with caps with a larger diameter than my thumb, and they kinda look more bluish.


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3385051 - 11/19/04 05:26 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Does the weather affect the activity of potency of the shroom? I always presumed that the best time to pick mushrooms is when the ground is still wet from a day of rain. But I've now been told that shrooms need a warm day with sunlight to fruit.

So if I pick mushrooms that have probably never seen daylight or a warm day, will they be active?


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3385092 - 11/19/04 05:35 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

They don't need sunlight to become active, if that's the question. I've picked cubes when the temps haven't gotten out of the 50s and they were potent, so you also don't need warmth. If they grow then they should be active if they are the active kind.


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3385138 - 11/19/04 05:45 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

duke: Here's some pics of copes I picked recently. Notice the obvious bluing on the stem in the first one. Hope this helps.







in this next pic copes are on the left, cubes up in the right corner:



look at the bluing on this cap:



see how the caps darken as they age:



Another batch of copes:



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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: newusername222]
    #3385318 - 11/19/04 06:21 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Well some of shrooms I picked got a dead on resemblance to your pictures, but not all. I guess I'll dry those ones out and see how they work.

At least I found a few cubes in the same field.


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3385468 - 11/19/04 06:55 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

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dukeofgonzo said:
I guess I'll dry those ones out and see how they work.




ummm, there are other ways to verify what mushroom you have besides "trying them out" and eating them :rolleyes:

how about a spore print,for one?  or other characteristics you can define such as listed in the FAQ?

dont be stupid about what you put in your body.  i'm not flaming you, just looking out for a fellow shroomer


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: Psilygirl]
    #3385554 - 11/19/04 07:19 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Well I made a spore print and it matched the color it said on several sources. I'm also not too worried about taking them since my friends already took them with no effect.

The one thing that throws me off about these shrooms though is the stems. Only a few stems blued, but almost every cap did.


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Re: Maybe Copelandia Cyaneses in Texas [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3386061 - 11/19/04 09:15 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

If you picked mushrooms from manure which you thought were Copelandia cyanescens then and ate them and nothing happened and no p bluing occurred then most likely you consumed Panaeolus antillarum, a look-a-like species in manure which is not psychoactive and very common throoughout the world.

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