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Acid vs Shrooms
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I am still rather young (16) and the only place I really have where I can go to do things such as get high or the like is my basement. I was wondering what the chances of me freaking on acid or shrooms and waking my parents 2 floors up would be. Is one less likely to make me freak then the other?



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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Opivynfg]
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I think there is less chance of you freaking out on mushrooms than on acid, especially if you don't know the potency of the acid. You could take one hit and completely lose touch with reality or you could take one hit and feel not so much as a buzz. With mushrooms, even though potenct varies, you still have a better idea of what sized dose you are taking. Don't eat more than 1.7 grams (half an eighth) if it's your first time. With a dose like that, I'm sure you won't come running into your parents room screaming about monsters in your head.



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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Opivynfg]
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I think you should wait another 2-5 years before taking psychedelics. Just my two cents. Do as you please..

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: kosmic_charlie]
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I agree with kosmic. Shrooms tend to be more gentler than acid. Just make sure you don't give your parents a reason to come down there. Even on low doses parents can totally freak you out, on any drug.

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Hydro]
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I see what you're saying but some 16 year olds can be quite mature and mentally prepared for the psychedelic experience.



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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Opivynfg]
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if youre gonna be confined to a basement alone, first of all i wouldnt recommend it, especially when youre young or inexperienced. i tried a half eighth of shrooms in my room, and though i didnt get much out of it, i still got very nervous and paranoid, not fun for me at all. ive sworn myself to only trip outside of my house and mostly with my friends until im more experienced with psychedelics...as for which is calmer? i dont know, the weird thing is i freaked out LESS on 3 1/2 hits of acid than my half eighth shroom trip last friday...but alone in a basement, i bet youd freak out if you were on acid, go for shrooms or dont do it in your basement is what i think would be best. have fun and dont wake the parents

We're all mad here...


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: PotSmokinHippie]
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> Shrooms tend to be more gentler than acid.

I disagree. I always found acid to be more of a (physical and mental) rush than mushrooms. Mushrooms had too much body interference. Also, acid seemed to make me prone to laughter more than shrooms.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: HB]
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I wouldnt be alone. I have a friend who is really interested in it too. We wanted to do them together in my basement. I was just concered I would become loud or something. Ive been around my parents stoned countless times, and they never caught me. But I had been told that when tripping you are too fucked up to do anything. I figured I would ask you people, because clearly you are much more experienced then me.

So me and my friend, in my basement, splitting an eighth. That sound like it would be alright?



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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Opivynfg]
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im quite quiet when tripping, and I actually talked to my friend's entire family while peaking on just over half an eighth with very little problem and I was actually enjoying it too, oddly enough. Needless to say, they suspected nothing and everybody was happy. If you are only doing half an eighth then I wouldn't worry, just make sure you have room to move, I get bored of sitting in one room, I need space to move around in or I get anxious. I think you would have a lot more fun, at, say, a park or something, but if you must, tripping in your basement wouldn't be bad, supposing you have your set and setting down. have fun

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Kid]
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Kid, its funny you say you get more body noise from shrooms. For me it's the otherway around. With acid my back always cramps up about halfway through the trip and can be quite annoying/painful. Then towards the end of the trip I usually get a headache and aching in my legs and my body/mind just feel spent as fuck. My last acid trip was just last Saturday and all of these "body noises" appeared. I find shrooms to be much gentler on my body and mind. I usually have no "body noise" except maybe slight nausea on the coming up, which usually goes away once I start tripping. I usually feel refreshed and relaxed after a shroom trip as opposed to burnt out and tight.

As for the original question, I think that both have equal potential to freak you out. It's all going to come down to set, setting, dosage, and your personal reaction to either drug. Shrooms might be the better route since dosage it easier to control and they last for much shorter amount of time.

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Hydro]
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Hydro why should he wait? i'm just curious, because i (and many of my friends) have tried psychedelics and we're all either 14 or 15 (i'm 14) and we were fine. we all had a lot of experience with drugs though.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: MrNiceGuy]
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Well dude, if your worried about the basement holdin you back or freakin you out, just dont trip in the basement! Pick a nice sunny day and wonder into the woods, or just go out at night. A lot of my trips are the jump out your window at 3 in the morning kind. Its great if you have a nice secluded spot where you dont have to worry about any people or piggies sneakin up on you. Bring you binger, buds, a few towels, stuff to drink, and whatever trip toys you want.

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: MrNiceGuy]
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I look at it like this. The human brain isn't fully physicly formed (say that ten times fast) until your around the age of 21-23 years old. Also, most kids around the ages of 14-16 just got finished with the initial stages of puberty, but still have a long way to go until they fully mature. You have to be responsible to put drugs into your body! If your not, then you are going to fuck up. You also have to be mentally capible for such a journey. Most teens these days are far from it! Not my trouble though. As I said, do as you please. I'm only hear for my two cents worth of information. ;-)

Immature use of psychedelics = confusion
Mature use of psychedelics = understanding

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Edited by Hydro on 06/14/01 04:33 PM.



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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Hydro]
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I agree with hydro... don't do any drugs until you're older and your mind has developed more and stuff. Works better... how many 14 year old kids do you see who do drugs for a better understanding? Not that many, usually just some kids wasting time by getting high : )~ its not always that, but usually. Also, I think shrooms would be better than acid but I wouldn't recommend doing them alone or in your basement the first time you try them. You might get the laughs real bad and when you're alone you tend to drift off deep into thaughts and sometimes build yourself up for an anxiety attack... so don't go solo till you've done it a few times with other people.

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: DarK_SavioR]
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"The human brain isn't fully physicly formed"
watch what you say- you're saying the brain isn't PHYSICALLY formed yet, i.e. taking the mushrooms is going to stop the forming of your PHYSICAL brain, think before you tell someone something.



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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: thegoldenteacher]
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i know many 16-20 year olds who trip for personal enlightenment.






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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Opivynfg]
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The first time i tripped was when i was 16 and me and a friend ate 1.5g each. We were in his basement too and the only problem we had was keeping quiet we were having such a good time!!!! You should try and have access to nature though, that way if you want a change of pace you can just walk outside.

Edited by twisted1 on 06/17/01 11:04 AM.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: twisted1]
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i first did acid when i was 15 (not too long ago, im only 16 now) and did it for the creative aspects of it. my friend told me of his trips (he was relatively new to acid and never did shrooms before) and i got really into it cuz im an artist. i kinda told myself it was too much (i believed all the media hype about it) and that I would never do it, but one day he came to school and had 4 PEZ hits and asked if i wanted to do them the next weekend, and without thinking i said yes. so i came to the shroomery and read the FAQ on shrooms over and over till i felt i was ready (this was also before the message boards for me) so he came to my ranch and we tripped (i have it in a trip report under Level 3 : First Trip -- LONG) and had the trip of my life, to get to the point. and thats what pulled me into the world of psychedelics. i used acid at the beginning mainly for visuals, but went beyond that and am now looking for enlightenment of any kind while tripping. needless to say tripping has brought many new artistic ideas to my head and has improved my work ;) but im looking to go BEYOND the visuals and into some actual journeying. and if i dont get enlightened, so be it, im still not fully physically "formed" yet but i am very mentally structured. and after my stupid DXM shit im not jumping into any large doses until im really ready -- which probably wont be for a while, im still quite new to the world of psychedelics. i know a shitload about them, but i still havent passed the double-digit trip count, so until then ...

We're all mad here...


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Lallafa]
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I said most kids these days are just trippin' to get fucked up. That wouldn't be all that bad, but then they do it incredibly irresponsibly! I say drink a beer if you want to get fucked up.

Whether your taking psychedelics for personal enlightenment or to just get fucked up, you?re going to have to do it responsibly. Bottom line is, a lot of 16 year olds are not that responsible yet. At least in my area anyways.

Hydro has spoken!
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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: HB]
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> but i still havent passed the double-digit trip count

What is the purpose behind keeping a count of how many times one has tripped? I never really got that. I used to think it was some sort of big deal when I first started trippin', but I just stopped counting after 30 times or so. 8-P``

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Hydro]
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well i figure i need to do a decent amount of trips before i can really start understanding them. on the last trip i had one revelation about summer and what it means and i was having so much fun just talking, but i didnt really get spiritually enlightened. typically, i mostly just saw trees which look like kids with afros and red eyes and a few trees that formed this guy who was toking up on a pipe. but visuals are only side-dishes, i need to start understanding what the shrooms are trying to teach me, if they have anything to say ...

We're all mad here...


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Opivynfg]
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I hope your not planning to do it alone because I've never found that to be very fun. From my expierences I've found that, more often than not, it isn't a case of losing control and freaking out but rather getting up the nerve do do something you wouldn't normally do-for instance a friend of mine dropped acid, then went to his parents and told them he was on acid, for reasons he hasn't told me. Just as long as you have something to occupy yourself, like a movie or something(may I suggest Fantasia) you'll be fine


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Hydro]
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> What is the purpose behind keeping a count of how many times one has tripped?

I've taken notes, and therefor counted (as each trip's title is "Trip #x") for 90%+ of all my trips (now numbering over 300). It's called, um, recording the data.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Kid]
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> now numbering over 300

If your taking psychedelics as a mind expanding, spiritual tool, then eventually you will learn all there is to be learned from these drugs. So there is no big difference between someone who has tripped, say 90 times, as apposed to someone who has tripped 900 times. That's what I'm trying to say.

> It's called, um, recording the data.

Do you have over 300 trip reports documented? That would actually be pretty cool. ;-)

Hydro has spoken!
Please! Tell me about the fucking golf shoes!

Edited by Hydro on 06/29/01 12:46 PM.



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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Opivynfg]
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well, i wouldnt recomend either for a basement. see... mushrooms are an out-in-the-wilderness kind of drug. i normally hate being around man made things when im shroomin cause it just makes me trip out on civilization all together... i much prefer going on a hike, or being somewhere far away from man made things. acid i wouldnt recomend at all cause its jsut a shitty drug to do. mush is much better, just not in the basement. go out with friends, take a hike or go to the beach at night and eat an eighth or a half eighth (if its your first time 1/2 is better)

have fun!

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Lifted420]
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Well, I guess I'll be the one to reply to this statement today... ;-)

> acid i wouldnt recomend at all cause its jsut a shitty drug to do

Please explaine.

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Hydro]
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Hydro.. it happens alot on this board.
"It" being people trying a drug, not liking it, and then coming on here and advocating against it's use, and just preaching how bad it is. Pretty stupid huh ;)

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Brugman]
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i dont find mushrooms to be similar to acid at all. I havent done acid in about 7 months just cause i didnt like how it stayed in my system for a long time. As for the trip, i liked it a lot better, i just liked the body feeling much better and the visuals were more realistic and there were a lot more of them. But I think overall mushrooms are better only because they are organic and have a natural feeling to them. They also dont seem to have any lasting effects like acid did.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Hydro]
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> If your taking psychedelics as a mind expanding, spiritual tool, then eventually you will learn all there is to be learned from these drugs.

Just as, I guess, after 900 days you will learn all there is to learn about life...
I don't think the data can ever be completed.

> Do you have over 300 trip reports documented? That would actually be pretty cool. ;-)

Yep. I have about 110 trips documented on my computer and about 200 trips on paper. There are about 50 or so trips I didn't record. Keep in mind some of the trips only have a few lines of notes written about them. I do intend to (one day) transcribe) all my notes to computer and add notes on top of them.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: J_Twista]
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What do you mean by, the visuals were more "realistic"?


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Kid]
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i just remember that when i was on acid the hallucinations i had seemed real. Like for instance i looked at a curtain and it looked the the wind was blowing it and making it ripple. I actually believed that thats what was happening so i ran around looking for an open window but they were all closed. I also see people outside that arnt there and my first reaction is always that there really there. On shrooms the hallucinations never get that strong and i never for a second think that there real. Maybe its cause of the state of mind acid puts me in or something but thats just the way i see it.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: J_Twista]
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I prefer shrooms any day. They are so much gentler on the body, no back aches, headaches. They dont last for 12+ hours and keep you awake for another 4. And finally because you dont feel like a zombie for the following week after doing a good dose of shrooms. Oh and another thing shrooms are much gentler on the mind, not to say that theirs no mindfuck but it's just easier for me to flow with shrooms.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: davin]
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I's never hads backaches, headaches or "hangovers" f/ acid. On more than one occasion I've written exams the day after an acid trip (or after just having come down). Shroomers ares generallies more harder on me body.


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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: kosmic_charlie]
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thanks for the tip

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Re: Acid vs Shrooms [Re: bokaj]
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Ive eaten 1.5 mg lsd, and 30+ grams shrooms before (different occasions) the lsd is always so much stronger. I ate 900 mics lsd and tried to eat 7 g mushrooms but the lsd way overpowered the shrooms, the shrooms told me theyd have to leave because there was a way to strong presence. Even like 300 ug lsd id have to eat about 5 g mush just to get close


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