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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3385428 - 11/19/04 04:42 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

You're looking in the wrong places.

apparently it's not where i'm looking but what i'm looking with. try as i may, without physical sensation i have never learned anything about the physical world.

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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: ]
    #3385451 - 11/19/04 04:52 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

If you want knowledge of things metaphysical, stop looking for it in things physics.


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: MovingTarget]
    #3385461 - 11/19/04 04:54 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)



I'll remind everyone for a third time... Can we get back on topic?


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3385477 - 11/19/04 04:58 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

the past 15 pages have been about everyting but arnolds exposure lol


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: MovingTarget]
    #3385485 - 11/19/04 05:00 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Hehe.



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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3385490 - 11/19/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

that guys trippin


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Anonymous

Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3385492 - 11/19/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

i don't follow you, and i don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this. don't take this personally, but i truly believe that you are incapable of defending your beliefs in terms of reason, and you're just throwing around words like, 'gnosis' and 'metaphysics' as a distraction.

i suppose that's fine.

my problem is that you believe that it is proper to force these beliefs on others. you have had a completely personal and subjective 'experience' which you can neither prove nor explain, and it is on this basis alone which you would employ force against peaceful people.

would it be a good thing if everyone who believed themself to be the recipient of divine knowledge to force the content of such an experience on other people?

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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: ]
    #3385498 - 11/19/04 05:03 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

You simply don't have a conscious relationship with God.


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: ]
    #3385512 - 11/19/04 05:07 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

mushmaster said:
i don't follow you, and i don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this. don't take this personally, but i truly believe that you are incapable of defending your beliefs in terms of reason, and you're just throwing around words like, 'gnosis' and 'metaphysics' as a distraction.

i suppose that's fine.

my problem is that you believe that it is proper to force these beliefs on others. you have had a completely personal and subjective 'experience' which you can neither prove nor explain, and it is on this basis alone which you would employ force against peaceful people.

would it be a good thing if everyone who believed themself to be the recipient of divine knowledge to force the content of such an experience on other people?




:thumbup:

let me emphasise somthing here:
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would it be a good thing if everyone who believed themself to be the recipient of divine knowledge to force the content of such an experience on other people?



It is clear that this has happened, and happens. It is a cause of many wars and much bloodshed.

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Anonymous

Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3385529 - 11/19/04 05:10 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I'll remind everyone for a third time... Can we get back on topic?

this thread was originally about stopping "that austrian nazi bastard". now it's about epistemology. i personally welcome the hijack. i'd rather be getting into the nuts and bolts of philosophical questions than pouring over another one of ahronzombie's new discoveries... especially because this one's definitely not up to par with his usual fare... what with moon landing frauds, flying saucers, time travelers, and my personal favorite, the government spraying "mind control" substances from airliners (you ever see those TRAILS jets leave in the SKY man!?)...  :smirk:

no, i must say that i welcome this hijacking. sorry arnold.

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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3385578 - 11/19/04 05:25 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

"All religions are essentially paths to God"
Including this one?

"however, God does not speak to you. He may reveal Himself to you as He does with mystics, but He only has intercourse with language trough Prophets that offer a manifestation; be it the Christ-man, or the Recitation"
What a bunch of feces. Do you have any arguments that can be substantiated? Are you a prophet? How do you know that the claims by long dead people of the ages of ignorance which you term "prophets" are in fact true? How do you verify their claims?


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: Autonomous]
    #3385646 - 11/19/04 05:41 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

dogma doesn't require any proof what so ever, that the beauty of religion :grin:


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: Autonomous]
    #3385684 - 11/19/04 05:48 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Autonomous said:
"All religions are essentially paths to God"
Including this one?



Hey, I go there every Sunday for Black Mass.


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: silversoul7]
    #3386327 - 11/19/04 08:09 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

attn anybody who has not studied islam themselves: this is not the only interpretation of islam. while i certainly don't consider myself a muslim (very very far from it, really), i just thought i'd share a poem by the Sufi poet Rumi

Even when you tear its petals off one after another,
the rose keeps laughing and doesn't bend in pain.
"Why should I be afflicted because of a thorn?
It is the thorn which taught me how to laugh."
Whatever you lost through fate,
be certain that it saved you from pain.
A Sheikh was asked: "What is Sufism?"
He said: "To feel joy in the heart when sorrow appears."

Rumi was a Sufi Muslim and poet (Sufi's are perhaps more commonly recognized as the "whirling dervishes" - they have a form of meditation where they dance in circles while singing, in order to "rise above" everyday existence and commune with Allah - whom they believe is not a judge with a large beard and a vengeful wrath, but the inherent "one-ness" of all existence) - definitely do a search on Sufism - here might be a place to start: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~godlas/Sufism.html


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: Krishna]
    #3386797 - 11/19/04 10:19 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

WHAT A THREAD!!! i even read the poem.


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3386851 - 11/19/04 10:33 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: AaronEvil]
    #3387390 - 11/20/04 01:22 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

i never said i didnt

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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3387461 - 11/20/04 01:40 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

when i first read the name of this topic i was like. O here goes another pee wee herman incident


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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: sos]
    #3387660 - 11/20/04 02:36 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

thats is one sexy bitch on that avatar. ive never been able to locate a password to that website. seems to be the only porn site that has good security

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Re: Arnold Exposed [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3391649 - 11/21/04 12:25 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

i see arnold exposed has already picked up allot of money and made it onto CNN. god willing we will crush arnold before he becomes president

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