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OfflineNoodleSalad
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Growing Amanita Muscaria outside?
    #3382280 - 11/19/04 01:18 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

I understand that it is almost impossible to grow inside but what about outside. If you how a suitable tree do you think you could do it? Also would it eventually kill the tree?


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: NoodleSalad]
    #3382344 - 11/19/04 01:46 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

No, it won't kill the tree.

The only thing you could do is drop some spores and hope for the best....


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: discman1]
    #3382569 - 11/19/04 02:59 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

isn't growing Amanita's like the holy grail??


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: aussieone]
    #3382572 - 11/19/04 03:00 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

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aussieone said:
isn't growing Amanita's like the holy grail??


Pretty much... lol

I'm sure it has been "artificially" grown outdoors by inoculating large areas..

But it hasn't ever been grown indoors AFAIK.


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: discman1]
    #3382577 - 11/19/04 03:02 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

someone will find a way im sure :smile:


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: aussieone]
    #3382718 - 11/19/04 03:50 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

I bet if you dug out a few dozen muscaria with all mycellium intact and planted them near tree roots they would grow fine, then next season would grow back? It's only a mushroom of mother nature right?


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: Super_Blunt]
    #3382725 - 11/19/04 03:52 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

i'm curious as to what kinda of tree they grow on.. people say they cannot be grown indoors, but i've seen pleanty of indoor trees...


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3382745 - 11/19/04 03:57 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

yeah indoor trees but not growing on something like WBS, but didnt somone not long ago find away to cultivate azures indoors??


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: aussieone]
    #3382769 - 11/19/04 04:08 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

you make a compost, plant say a ficus in it.. (as i have no idea what they grow on) ficus love water and natuarly produce a nice extensive root structure. If you cut a ficus down, it still grows back (provided you leave a couple leaves...(expirence, i have about 10 ficus's in my house now cause they don't stop growing, and i've cloned the bastards a few times) hell you could even cut the thing down completely, and i'm sure its root structure owuld not die right away.... so you'd have a bucket, with active roots that you could use to (hypotheticaly) grow Amanita Muscaria indoors. But like i say, i don't know much about amanita, nore what type of tree and root structure they like...


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3384606 - 11/19/04 04:04 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

It has a symbiotic relationship with conifers, which do not do well indoors. It doesen't just grow with any tree.

AFAIK, it's not the trees roots necessarily that allow it to grow, but some other organism that is also colonizing the tree's roots. It's quite complex, or we would have people growing them.


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: discman1]
    #3384625 - 11/19/04 04:08 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

^^^ yeah what he said if you accomplish this tell everyone in the world and there mother

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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: NoodleSalad]
    #3384627 - 11/19/04 04:08 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post3196334

I was curious about that too, but I guess it can't really happen (or someone still has to figure out how)


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3384631 - 11/19/04 04:09 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Here they mainly grow side by side by the tree we know as "berk" or "birch".... The kinda white ones which really is a "northern" tree....


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3384664 - 11/19/04 04:15 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

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Here they mainly grow side by side by the tree we know as "berk" or "birch".... The kinda white ones which really is a "northern" tree....


Oh really? Maybe I was wrong about the Conifer bit.

I guess now that I think about it, I have seen pictures of them growing under rhododendrons.

Interesting. Well, regardless.. I think that the reason it is so difficult to cultivate indoors is because, even if the tree can grow indoors, maybe that type of environment is inhospitibal to the other organism required for it to grow.

I would love to dedicate a few years to trying to get it to work. It seems amazing to me that someone hasn't figured it all out yet.

Hasn't Stamets ever studied them?


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: discman1]
    #3384679 - 11/19/04 04:17 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Rhododendrons are not native here, but the Amanita fly agaric is.
They do go in symbiosis with other trees, I noticed this fall, but mainly close to birch.


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3384842 - 11/19/04 04:50 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

I think i would try and grow outdoors first. I have never seen them growing around here, but thats probaly because the climate is too dry. Although i have never looked for them. Does anyone know if they grow in Colorado? Maybe they under both birch and conifers.


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: NoodleSalad]
    #3385186 - 11/19/04 05:52 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

"The only thing you could do is drop some spores and hope for the best...."

No, you can definately make some spawn. You'd have a much better chance. Still, I haven't heard of this being completed.

Apparently after the mycellium begins growing with the roots, it can still take a year or two before any fruitbodies are formed.


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3385205 - 11/19/04 05:56 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

i dont think you should try to grow them, they are too mystical and beautiful to try and control with our science. not that other mushers arent beautiful, but im a landscaper and i find them muscarias at the edge of forests and it just makes me so happy to see them. i wouldnt feel the same way if i saw them in a lab.:)


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3385298 - 11/19/04 06:19 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

elgr said:
"The only thing you could do is drop some spores and hope for the best...."

No, you can definately make some spawn. You'd have a much better chance. Still, I haven't heard of this being completed.

Apparently after the mycellium begins growing with the roots, it can still take a year or two before any fruitbodies are formed.


What kind of spawn would you use? Would the mycelium grow on BRF? Prolly not... probably need a wood-based?


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Re: Growing Amanita Muscaria outside? [Re: sunofogun]
    #3385474 - 11/19/04 06:57 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Where are you finding these at the edges of forests?

I live in Canada and I am not sure I have ever seen one in real life. It gets pretty fuckin cold here in winter. I have wondered if the winter kills off the mycelium, but I hear tell of Syberia being a common place for them to grow. Comments?

Also, I am going to Portland sometime in the next week or so for American thanksgiving, and want to know if I have any chance of finding some amanitas if I go for a nature hike there.


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