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OfflineAncalagon
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Re: armed pilots? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3380317 - 11/18/04 03:57 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Pilots only, too many crazies to allow the passengers to have guns.



Let's clear up a tenet of libertarianism then. Passengers would not be 'allowed' to have guns on planes; they would simply not be prevented from having guns by the federal government. If Airline X chooses to allow its customers to bring guns (guns that don't endanger the plane no doubt), so be it. If its business suffers as a result, so be that. Private Property.


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?When Alexander the Great visted the philosopher Diogenes and asked whether he could do anything for him, Diogenes is said to have replied: 'Yes, stand a little less between me and the sun.' It is what every citizen is entitled to ask of his government.?
-Henry Hazlitt in 'Economics in One Lesson'

Edited by Ancalagon (11/18/04 04:40 PM)

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Re: armed pilots? [Re: Ancalagon]
    #3380520 - 11/18/04 04:56 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

if airplanes are constantly flying over property not owned by the owner\operator of the plane, isn't it proper that the government enforce some kind of regulations on airline safety?

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Invisiblez@z.com
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Registered: 10/13/02
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Re: armed pilots? [Re: ricyjo]
    #3381382 - 11/18/04 07:45 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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ricyjo said:
Rapid-fire rapid-effect tranquilizers would be much safer and just as effective.
The hostage element is very significant on planes as well.
With darts, whoever gets hit would survive; passengers and assholes alike.




Unfortunately any tranquilizer that is fast acting enough to be effective is also very likely to be fatal. Ever wonder why cops don't have tranquilizer guns?


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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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InvisibleAntiMeme
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Registered: 08/11/04
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Re: armed pilots? [Re: trendal]
    #3381507 - 11/18/04 08:17 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

US pilots are in fact supportive of the idea:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TRAVEL/NEWS/04/11/guns.cockpits/?related

This was a union petition, so unionized pilots want guns in the cockpit. I'm not so sure it's a good idea to arm communists who pilot planes.


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InvisibleDirtMcgirt
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Re: armed pilots? [Re: AntiMeme]
    #3382065 - 11/18/04 10:18 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

taser gun, how bout those? I know a few pilots as well and they are for it but I also know alot more airline passengers that are against it, including myself. Its has the same potential for causing a threat than it does preventing one. Not worth it. And who the hell is paying for all these firearms and firearms training?


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"And we, inhabitants of the great coral of the Cosmos, believe the atom (which still we cannot see) to be full matter, whereas, it too, like everything else, is but an embroidery of voids in the Void, and we give the name of being, dense and even eternal, to that dance of inconsistencies, that infinite extension that is identified with absolute Nothingness and that spins from its own non-being the illusion of everything."

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Offlinericyjo
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Registered: 07/22/02
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Re: armed pilots? [Re: z@z.com]
    #3382095 - 11/18/04 10:26 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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z@z.com said:
Ever wonder why cops don't have tranquilizer guns?




because they have guns.

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InvisibleAutonomous
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Registered: 05/10/02
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Re: armed pilots? [Re: ]
    #3382122 - 11/18/04 10:31 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Guns in cockpits? I thought this thread was about not hiring amputees as pilots!


Oh well, if I trust a pilot to fly an aircraft, why shouldn't I trust him to defend his craft? I trust pilots a hell of a lot more than I trust airport screeners hired under the notoriously low standards of the government.


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