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Offlinefloydguitar
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how long can jars sit before being pc?
    #3378627 - 11/18/04 11:19 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i prepared 10 jars of 1 pint jars with birdseed. my pc will only fit five jars and i only had time to do one batch. how long do you think the jars can sit before they are pc. can they sit forever or should i pc them as soon as possible? thanks


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: floydguitar]
    #3378648 - 11/18/04 11:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ASAP..they'll last a few days...if you put them in the fridge they'll last longer..I'd guess up to a week or two but dont hold me to that as I've never waited more then 24 hours between simmer and PC.


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3378675 - 11/18/04 11:30 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I usually wait 24 hours between simmering and pc. However, I waited a weekend last weekend and the results were a horrible bacteria. They certainly won't sit forever, they're already contaminated... and you've just set up an excellent growing environment.


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3378885 - 11/18/04 12:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I think that the PF tek says to let them sit for 3 days. That way you will know if they are contaminated or not. OF course, that's with a layer of clean verm on top. I don't know if you use that with WBS.


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: ticktock]
    #3378915 - 11/18/04 12:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It does not say to let the PF Tek jars sit for 3 days between simmering and PCing because you don't simmer for the PF Tek, only for grains. It says to let them sit for 3 days after you PC which you can do for grains as well. Its not needed in either case its only to see if any werent properly sterilized and contam after being sterilized before knocking them up and wasting spores on a jar that would contam anyway. That way the only contamed jars you end up with are ones without spores and ones that you werent clean enough during inoculation with. After a PC jars can sit for much longer..mine sit for up to two weeks sometimes but almost always for a few days..I do 4-6 PC runs a week but not all on the same day but I like to knock up all the jars at once so I wait a week or two as they build up before knocking up..this has never posed to be a problem.


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3378967 - 11/18/04 12:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hi Scatmanrav,

Ok. I think we are agreeing here. Floydguitar said his pc only holds 5 jars, so I figured he was pc-ing the jars.


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: ticktock]
    #3379107 - 11/18/04 01:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

He is PCing the jars..his PC holds 10 jars..5 are done but the 5 that arent are the ones hes worried about..not the ones that are already PCed. We definatly agree..your correct in what you say kind of..we just arent talking about what you are. I think you may have only done the PF tek? In grains you simmer prior to PCing and if you leave them sit after simmering (or just soaking in the jars with the correct water if thats what you did in place of simmering) they will become contaminated after a few days or germinate (I think simmering will stop germination of the grain but if you didnt simmer and are still soaking then the grain could germinate as well). After PCing however they can sit for a long time as long as they were properly sterilized and stored.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3379285 - 11/18/04 02:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:
I think you may have only done the PF tek?




You think right. I'm a noob with a first batch of jars doing well in spite of my screw ups. Also reading everything I can find. This is going to be fun.


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: ticktock]
    #3379294 - 11/18/04 02:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

do not let them sit. he could pc them all now. then inoc after a few days but it would not be recommended. It can mess with the moisture an shit


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: negative]
    #3379341 - 11/18/04 02:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't let them sit long. You need to PC them so you can kill off all the contaminates before they screw up your substrate.


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Re: how long can jars sit before being pc? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3380885 - 11/18/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thanks a lot for the advice.


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