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Stopped by a cop
    #3377903 - 11/18/04 07:47 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Is it considered probable cause to be going for a walk at 4 in the morning? That's what I was doing just now, when a cop car pulled up and the cop questioned me. Regretfully, I consented to a search. I didn't have anything on me, and wasn't doing anything illegal, but still, I really wish I hadn't forfeited my Constitutional rights. I'm not in trouble or anything, but now the police have a file on me. One more reason to never consent to a search.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: silversoul7]
    #3377919 - 11/18/04 07:55 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

If you know that you have nothing on you then why in the world would you consent to a search? for shame...


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3377922 - 11/18/04 07:56 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I know. :sad:


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: silversoul7]
    #3377985 - 11/18/04 08:17 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

the best thing to do is just run away as fast as you can.  Cops understand. :grin:


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3378276 - 11/18/04 09:54 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I got followed by the cops once when i went out to walmart in the middle of the night on a bicycle... he followed me all the way up to walmart, followed me all the way back, then he stopped me on the pretense that a 'bicycle thief' was lurking the neighborhood and he wanted to check out my bike... totally bogus, but he didn't ask to search me...

I found out later that the same cop works for the crack dealers, guarding the crackhouse. He probably thought I was out looking for crack, and stopped me with the intention of robbing me of my crack booty... or mebbe he wanted my booty crack? I dunno...

cops can be assholes...


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3378354 - 11/18/04 10:17 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I'm betting it was your booty crack. :blush:


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: silversoul7]
    #3378756 - 11/18/04 11:50 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

for all the bullshit you spout about individual rights
and freedoms your bravado sure went out the window
with a quickness when faced with an adverse situation.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: afoaf]
    #3378780 - 11/18/04 11:55 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
for all the bullshit you spout about individual rights
and freedoms your bravado sure went out the window
with a quickness when faced with an adverse situation.



I know. I never said I was perfect. Sometimes it's hard to tell how you'll react in a situation like this until it happens.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: silversoul7]
    #3378843 - 11/18/04 12:08 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I'm sure most people would of acted the same way. I like tip toeing on the line so who knows what i'd do.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3378994 - 11/18/04 12:43 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I was proud of my brother, who never touched a drug in his life, to refuse a search by a cop when he was pulled over. I taught him well.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: looner2]
    #3379079 - 11/18/04 01:00 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Good for him, I rarely ever get stopped by the police when i'm walking so who knows if i'll ever get the opportunity.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: silversoul7]
    #3379091 - 11/18/04 01:03 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

silversoul7 said:
Is it considered probable cause to be going for a walk at 4 in the morning? That's what I was doing just now, when a cop car pulled up and the cop questioned me. Regretfully, I consented to a search. I didn't have anything on me, and wasn't doing anything illegal, but still, I really wish I hadn't forfeited my Constitutional rights. I'm not in trouble or anything, but now the police have a file on me. One more reason to never consent to a search.




I heard from a friend that cops often depend on people "getting caught in the headlights" like a deer. Like when cops ask to search your person, you have to react quickly. Its best tho to consent if you dont have any weed or anything on you. It just looks better. Here though there's always people walking around at any given time so its not much of an issue.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: silversoul7]
    #3379181 - 11/18/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

> Regretfully, I consented to a search.

Been there, done that. It is much easier to say "why in the world would you consent to a search" than to say, "No, you cannot search me".


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: Seuss]
    #3379202 - 11/18/04 01:33 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> Regretfully, I consented to a search.

Been there, done that. It is much easier to say "why in the world would you consent to a search" than to say, "No, you cannot search me".




Yes - in fact I said something similiar in the same situation.. "Why would you want to search me?" the conversation went off track from there and they never searched me.. at that time I had a eigth of mushrooms in my pocket so I think I played it pretty well then.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3379632 - 11/18/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I found out later that the same cop works for the crack dealers,

You live in Detroit too?


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: silversoul7]
    #3379701 - 11/18/04 03:44 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I went to the movies on a Sunday night years back and caught the last show which let out at midnight. I was walking home and was tailed by a lady cop in a patrol car. She pulled over.

LC: What are you doing?

Swami: Going for a walk

LC: Where you going?

Swami: Home.

LC: What is your name?

Swami: I am not required to give you that information.

LC: May I see some ID?

Swami: No, you may not.

LC: Do you have a problem with police?

Swami: Yes ma'am, I do.

LC: Why is that?

Swami: Because of harassment like what you are doing now.

LC: This is my neighborhood and I like to check on things.

Swami: Fine, you have checked on me. Good night.

*Swami walks away*

*LC cruises at 3 mph alongside Swami*

LC: I am not finished with you.

Swami: *silence - keeps walking*

LC: *radios for back-up*

A few minutes later, a short, Hispanic, barrel-chested cop pulls up and flies out his car enraged and jumps in front of me on the sidewalk blocking my path with folded arms.

HC: *angrily* I hear that you are giving my partner some sheet!

Swami: Nothing of the sort.

HC: WTF are you doing in my neighborhood?

Swami: I am going for a walk.

HC: Why didn't you show her your ID?

Swami: Because I am not required by law to do so.

HC: I am staring to really dislike you.

Swami: You are hurting my feelings.

HC: Don't get smart with me asshole.

Swami: OK, Officer Hernandez, badge number 381, you have two options: either arrest me and I will not resist; or get out of the way and let me pass. I don't care what you do, but detain me any longer and I am filing a harassment complaint.

HC: We will be keeping an eye on you.

Swami: I will sleep better at night knowing that. May I pass now?

HC: *grudgingly steps aside.*


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: Swami]
    #3379718 - 11/18/04 03:48 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

ha, that's pretty good, I wonder what would of happened if you called him an asshole back?

I hate cops like that.


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: silversoul7]
    #3379723 - 11/18/04 03:50 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Was this on your campus, SS7?


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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3379777 - 11/18/04 04:01 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

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Its best tho to consent if you dont have any weed or anything on you. It just looks better.




Looks better??? The hell are you talking about?





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Re: Stopped by a cop [Re: Gijith]
    #3379787 - 11/18/04 04:02 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

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Was this on your campus, SS7?



No, if it was on campus, it would've been campus safety, not the city police, in which case I'm not sure if the 4th Ammendment would've applied.


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