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Offlineboomer1
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drying without dessicants?
    #3376494 - 11/17/04 10:48 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

my biggest shroom has gotten so large it doesn't support its own weight anymore--it collapsed to the base of my chamber, so i've gotta pick it tonight, but won't be able to take advantage of it until after the t-day holliday. So i've been reading up on drying techniques, and i don't have easy access to any dessicants tonight... or i'm too lazy to go out, one or the other. anyhow, one of the solutions on this page talks about what I'll call the "black shirt method" to dry. has anyone tried this? or any other easy methods to dry out the shroom without losing potency? thanks in advance.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: boomer1]
    #3376627 - 11/17/04 11:12 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Is it really hot and humid where you are? If not, just put it directly in front of a running fan for 2 days. Should be good enough.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3376640 - 11/17/04 11:16 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

yeah man, its really humid. i live in an area where it rains nonstop for 8 months...way too much moisture in my appt...


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: boomer1]
    #3376672 - 11/17/04 11:23 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

lol.. I live in Oregon too, but I have no problems fanning my mushrooms dry.

It takes about 3-4 days for them to dry.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: discman1]
    #3376689 - 11/17/04 11:28 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

right on. i'll give it a try. so if thats all you have to do, why all the talk online about using the desiccants? is that just to preserve them for a longer period of time? from what i can tell, it seems like they'll last a few weeks in the fridge, right?


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: boomer1]
    #3376710 - 11/17/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Technically, you want to remove all the moisture you can. The only real way to do that without heat is desiccants.

Mine aren't "cracker" dry after 3-4 days, but they're well below the ~14% moisture limit for organism growth(mold etc)

I put them into a big ziploc baggy and leave it open.. they dry a little further over the next few days.

Water in the tissues helps degrade the actives, so it's better to get it all out. Not to mention you need it all out if you're making caps.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: discman1]
    #3376731 - 11/17/04 11:37 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

is there any consensis on how long the shroom can last in the baggy before the water begins to break down the active ingredients? if i'm looking at 2 weeks b4 i can eat these things, should i just suck it up and go out looking for the desiccants?


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: boomer1]
    #3376780 - 11/17/04 11:46 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

They're not like sopping wet... I wouldn't consider them wet at all really, they feel dry, even though they don't crumble in your hands.

I doubt they're degrading much, if any, once even fan dried.

A few friends took 1.7g/ea of my Ecuador that was fan dried 2-3 weeks ago and had a fine time.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: discman1]
    #3376804 - 11/17/04 11:51 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

huh? 2 grams you say wow i must of been crazy to eat well at 4 grams my first trip but i ate them all and swallow i didn't chew ..kinda funky but i tripped hard..wow fun times never done any paper gels that matched the potency


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: djred]
    #3376806 - 11/17/04 11:52 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

1.7g dried is a steady solid "Level 2" trip, so 4g would be pretty intense, yeah.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: discman1]
    #3376824 - 11/17/04 11:57 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

oh yeah walls were melting by far,i hadb;t tripped that hard ina long time prob since my first time tripping i di liquid..whoa whoa whoa..wow watching the ground breath up to the cars back end..wow thats some freaky shit..at 15


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: djred]
    #3376864 - 11/18/04 12:06 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

one more question about the preservation--what about a dehydrator? i have a friend who i can borrow one from...does anybody have experience using these, do they work well?


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: boomer1]
    #3376889 - 11/18/04 12:12 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Yes, they work well, as long as the temperature doesen't go above ~95?F.

I use the dehydrator, just not plugged in.... I have a desk fan sits perfectly on the top of the trays, so I just blow air down over them instead of turning it on.

I may start using it, I just want to measure the temperature first since it doesen't have a setting.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: discman1]
    #3376963 - 11/18/04 12:30 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

what does "convection air flow" mean? this dehydrator @Target is 30 bucks and uses no motor...

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=...asin=B000059L4A


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: boomer1]
    #3377124 - 11/18/04 01:14 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Despite all of the misinfo posted, you CAN dry them in the oven with NO LOSS of potency. Put at about 160-180F for several hours.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: boomer1]
    #3377143 - 11/18/04 01:23 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Convection:
Heat transfer in a gas or liquid by the circulation of currents from one region to another.
Fluid motion caused by an external force such as gravity.
I saw walmart has a $15 dehydrator that looked pretty descent.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: Swami]
    #3377154 - 11/18/04 01:26 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Despite all of the misinfo posted, you CAN dry them in the oven with NO LOSS of potency. Put at about 160-180F for several hours.


Proof?

Psilocybin begins to break down rapidly at ~170?F, so I would say that this is the misinformation.


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Re: drying without dessicants? [Re: discman1]
    #3377179 - 11/18/04 01:39 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

The proof is in the pudding. Try a sample from the same batch dried both ways(dehydrator - fan/desiccant). You will be hard pressed to tell a difference.


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