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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: veda_sticks]
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is it possible/okay to use a bit of bleach in the standing water (only if necessary of course)?

My only concern would be if the chlorine in the bleach would become chlorine vapor as it evaporated, if that's possible.

The cakes would not be touching the geolite of course, but would it still have some ill effect?


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: buggas]
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H202 is not bleach, its hydrogen peroxide. Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
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also bleach is fine to use if you dilute the crap out of it, i think like 1:200

vapors are only an issue if you boil the bleach

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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
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um, yeah i know the difference between NaCl0 and H2O2. Thanks tho.

I was just wondering because H2O2 is said to break down over time, but bleach is more stable, I think.

At least it's more deadly to microbes and stuff, which is why i was considering it for the water in my pod.


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: veda_sticks]
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Pointless..  I get perfect results without H2O2 or iodine.. don't waste your time with it.. you can if you want..

but you can also dive head first into a pile of horse poo.. both are pointless :thumbup:


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: Iamthewalrus]
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So H2O2 oxidizes this i know but I have heard only in light or heat. So I keep 9gallons of water and one gallon of h2o2 in a light proof rubber maid in a dark cool closet then when ever my ultra, or cool mist needs it I refill there reservoirs with the solution. So with those measures taken I wonder if I'm just feeding it h2o2 or just h20 :/ I really wanna switch to iodine but no one is answering my plea for help about what strength tincture to use and how much.
boo hoo hoo for me.


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: joshua m]
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Quote:
I really wanna switch to iodine but no one is answering my plea for help about what strength tincture to use and how much.




I answered your question above. None.
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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: joshua m]
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there is no need to use h202 or bleach solutions in your setups, just keep them clean and use plain water, remember that mycelium is hurt by h202 and takes time to recover, and in that time some other undesirable organism could have the chance to get a foothold in your growing area.

h202 should only be used to fight cobweb.

And bleach for cleaning work surfaces etc.

Fruiting chambres can be washed out with just hot water and washing up liquid.

h202 will break down in a solution of water eventaully even if its stored in the dark.


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: joshua m]
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Don't use either. It's pointless.


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: Nibin]
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Think its time to close this thread.


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: veda_sticks]
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Yeah but what about the period during fruiting. What should one do if they are in the middle of a flush, and then the FC starts to smell like mildew. Are the cakes ok? Should they be removed, the FC cleaned with bleach, then put back in?


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: buggas]
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in the middle of a flush, and then the FC starts to smell like mildew



Increase air exchange.
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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: RogerRabbit]
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yup more air flow i have uniformly 6 1and1/2" holes cut for each shelf. two on each side two on the front. And the zippers up about six inches for CO2 to escape. I am finding though that I need even more and am uniformly cutting more holes to the point of where my cool mist and ultrasonic can barely keep up.


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: joshua m]
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I'm gonna bump this post has any one ever seen the little cleaner balls they sell for humidifiers. I use them in each humidifier. Wondering could this be the reason I'm getting a much slower fruiting rate then when I used just plane ole h2o. I'm sorry to bump this I looked all over and only had one person answer this in a post. I wanna make sure I'm doing no harm.
I'm a noob sorry and correct me if needed.

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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: joshua m]
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Most of the cleaning solutions and additives I've seen on the market for humidifiers contain fungicides in one form or another as part of their ingredients and as such, I have avoided them.

Having never tried them, I can't say how it would effect your fruiting but my gut tells me it's probably causing some stress to the mycelium...as to how much, I have no idea. And without being able to personally observe your entire fruiting environment it gets really hard to ascertain if it's that or if you have some other variable slightly out of ideal.


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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.

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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: mycocurious]
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I think a few people have used it to no ill result, though a few google searches tell me very little about the chemical content of available products.

The bottom line is that spore buildup in your humidifier is NOT causing your contamination. Simply scrubbing the tank occasionally is more than enough. The contaminant spores are already in your atmosphere; if you're exchanging water frequently there's no reason to think the tank would have an abnormally high level of them.

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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. *DELETED* [Re: CaptainLinger]
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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: joshua m]
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I doubt that fungicides in your humidifier were why your "Golden Ts were moving so slowly".

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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: CaptainLinger]
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My cat's using a glass aquarium with a plexiglass lid. An airstone for FAE and geolite for humidity.

She only has a small hole drilled in the lid to get some pipes in there for the air stone. If the stone is constantly pushing air out of the box through the small hole (< 1cm), should she need to create some polyfill hole(s) (~ 2-3cm) in the top?

Does polyfill keep in humidity or will drilling holes only make it harder to keep high RH?


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Re: EVERYONE USE H2O2 water in your humidifier or misting method. [Re: buggas]
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You don't need to filter your air. Holes without polyfill will be better.

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