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OfflineHambo
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Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please!
    #3373006 - 11/17/04 07:06 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

After a full and healthy first flush.. I have these things growing through the casing. They are like regular pins but they seem to be growing on top of very thin stalks at the bottom. First instinct screamed contamination at me. But as the casing itself doesn't seem to have anything growing on it apart from mushrooms, and they look ok apart from the strandy stalk, I reckon it may be dry casing causing this?

I even pulled a pin and squished the water out of it onto a microscope slide.. It came through almost completely clear.



Its a crappy pic but you can see these foundations. Best I can do I'm afraid. Any ideas?


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3373019 - 11/17/04 07:11 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Wow Ive never seen that before, wish your camera was a little better. I wouldnt be poking around in your casing so much though. Not a good idea. The mushrooms appear to be doing fine, aside from the thin stalk syndrome your talking about. Id wait for some advice of course, but dont worry, Ive never heard of a contam like that before.

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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: call_me_kido]
    #3374411 - 11/17/04 02:02 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

No-one anyone ideas.. seen it before? anything?
I guess I'll report what happens with the casing then..

Theres a full pinset coming up..but they seem to develop an extra little bit propping them up above the top of the casing layer.. they're all doing it. Thinking deeply about it its either some invisible contam shrivelling the base, or the myc is being very economical with water during the initial stages of pin forming? just my ideas..

I'm strongly resisting the tempation to clean them all off and dunk the casing. I'll do it after the flush tho maybe.


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3374454 - 11/17/04 02:11 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I see a blurry blob of brown, white and tan. You honestly can't tell anything from that pic.

I hate to be an ass, but god damn.. Don't people know how to use their cameras? I see more blurry pictures here than I ever have.. lol

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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3374470 - 11/17/04 02:13 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Man this is exactly whats happening to me right now with my koh samuI!

I'm a first time grower and my first flush seemed to be all rotting from over watering as they were all talll thin and twisty. Right now they on the second flush and finally they are growing thich stemmed like they supposed to but on top of a really thin bit of stem just like in your pics.

Its probably because of the previous shrooms beside them being picked off and breaking off the mycelium away from the smaller shrooms that are growing up at this stage.


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OfflineHambo
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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: MovingTarget]
    #3374538 - 11/17/04 02:26 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Disc its just a crappy camera..



Heres one made with the webcam..also crap but you can see a bit more clearly..

target, I don't think so, coz even newly forming pins are getting this way after a while as well.. :/


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3374629 - 11/17/04 02:42 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, that's better.

No, it's not just a crappy camera. Unless the camera is broken, it should be able to focus. :tongue:

Either;

A) You were too close; cameras have a minimum focus distance
B) Didn't turn Macro mode on
C) Auto focus was off
D) Macro mode was on but you were still closer than the minimum focus distance
E) You moved while the shutter was open

Sorry I can't help with your question though, I do admit I would be concerned if my shrooms were like that.

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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3374645 - 11/17/04 02:45 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

That happened to my last cake flush (cakes are fun too).

Basically, the bases seemed to grow with the mushrooms just enough to hold them on there, and eventually got to be pretty strong (twist and pull pulled a bit of myc with the shrooms...).

Don't worry about it. They'll make sure they're ok, just give them time and love.


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3374739 - 11/17/04 03:01 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Oohhh Alright!

Bah you got me.. so its not my camera and I don't know how to use it properly!

Hmph I couldn't sort all those things while squatting down waving it around in a terrarium trying not to breathe or scrape the casing etc etc anyway.

I'm a lover.. not a photographer lol :P :wink:.

Army, what strain was that with fella?


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3376651 - 11/17/04 09:18 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Just keeping this up the top.. Now all you knowledgeable yanks might be around to see it. I beleive it is called a 'bump'. Help a poor ignorant limey.

Incidentally, productivity of casing seems unaffected.. insofar as theres a shitload of new pins forming.


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3378271 - 11/18/04 07:53 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If I had to guess I'd say strain but maybe not spraying much? I dunno, I've never seen that either. And is it the camera or are your caps pink??


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3379894 - 11/18/04 02:30 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

lol nah its the camera (or as Discman pointed out.. my inexpert use of it). They are very light though, more so as they grow up. mexican cubesis strain still.


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3413534 - 11/26/04 06:58 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, revive post with pics time.

That 2nd flush turned out somewhat poor.
I dunked the casing, in a fairly strong h202 soln. Rinsed it down, put the lightest bit of new casing material over the top, and have now got:

Flush No.3







I think popcorn will do nicely for me from now on..


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3413540 - 11/26/04 07:00 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

That flush doesn't look bad at all ?


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Super_Blunt]
    #3445324 - 12/04/04 09:57 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks.

Hello again everyone. :smile:

Flush no 4.


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3445344 - 12/04/04 10:11 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Hehe, looking good bro. Nice 4th flush.


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Re: Weird shroomage. Crappy pic. Advice please! [Re: Hambo]
    #3445608 - 12/04/04 12:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I have the same problem getting my camera to focus correctly close up. Here's my fix.

1. Set the camera to it's highest resolution. In my case that's 2272 X 1704. Yeah. It's huge.

2. Back off 2 or 3 feet. Don't zoom in. I get a really sharp focus that way and much better depth of field.

3. Crop the image down to the area that you would have zoomed into.

Works for me anyway.


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