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InvisibleSearch59
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HANG your cakes???
    #3374444 - 11/17/04 04:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I came up with an idea, to HANG cakes from fishing string, by poking thru the very center of the cake with a sterile metal knitting needle, and threading a fishing line thru it. Then tie the fishing line at the top of your chaimber, or tie it off hanging from a bar going thru your chaimber or something.

I came up with this after seeing many people have problems with the pins growing on the underside of the cake, which is sitting on a wet surface, which could cause rotting. Also, people talk about water standing on the tops of their flat cakes. If you thread the string thry the center of each flat end, the water will roll off the round sides.

So I figured, if they don't sit at all, but hang, that would allow pins from all sides to fully form right?

Any input/additions/ideas on this?

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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: Search59]
    #3374475 - 11/17/04 04:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hehehe what a great idea. Might be a bit of a pain in the arse.. make some cool pics though :smile:


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: Search59]
    #3374477 - 11/17/04 04:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

sounds lame, cause if you rip your cake then what are you going to do?


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: blackcat]
    #3374482 - 11/17/04 04:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You want your cakes to be in contact with moist vermiculite. If you're overwatering, stop watering so much.

I see no real benefit.


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: blackcat]
    #3374484 - 11/17/04 04:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i really wouldnt bother myself too much with hanging cakes. "hanging" is generally used with bulkier substrates, like straw logs. Hanging just increases surface area for pins and cakes dont produce enough to really make it worthwhile. IMO.



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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: DrW0mbat]
    #3374545 - 11/17/04 04:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, yeah, bad idea to rip the cake in half, mabee a better option here would be to use a thick(just as thick as knitting needle) plastic string, something that wouldn't cut thru the cake like a knife.

Can't use ordinary sting cause it would absorb water, and contams mabee.

Perlite, sure, if perlite is your method of humidifying. If you use a humidifier or the like, you don't use perlite.

Well, someone should try it, see what happends..
But yea, it does sound like a pain to do... A risk also, but ehh no pain no gain.


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: DrW0mbat]
    #3374549 - 11/17/04 04:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Idea. Try putting a nail or something all the way through the cake from the start. then after it's colonized everything would have grown strong around the nail and it wouldn't rip in two.


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: blackcat]
    #3374556 - 11/17/04 04:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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blackcat said:
sounds lame, cause if you rip your cake then what are you going to do?




At least your thinking though,
you should try your ideas out and tell us about the outcome. :smirk:


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
    #3374622 - 11/17/04 04:41 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Idea. Try putting a nail or something all the way through the cake from the start. then after it's colonized everything would have grown strong around the nail and it wouldn't rip in two.




Thats a good idea, however, one would need to add the nail before PCing the jar. So one would need a Stainless nail, and a nail that did't leech chemicals or what not into the cake.

Keep the ideas flowing!


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: Search59]
    #3374663 - 11/17/04 04:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

how's the nail/string/fishing line not going to just slip through the cake and hold the weight up? What's on the bottom holding it up? You'd need a piece of something to hold it up... like two chopsticks in an X shape or something...

Then, how are you going to hang it and make sure light gets to all sides of the cake to get the full benifit of more exposed surface area?

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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3374805 - 11/17/04 05:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well, if your light was on the OUTSIDE of your already white container, light will radiate thry the container. Enough to get light everywhere.

The string goes thru the very center of the cake.



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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: Search59]
    #3377082 - 11/18/04 01:01 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I think you're headed in the right direction. You're trying to improve methods of cultivation...

I'm still a newbie so feel free to ignore me. I've thought of similar methods over & over in my head. I think if you used a durable thick string that could support the weight of the cake without cutting through it, this method could prove useful...if hung close enough to your perilite (so to still maintain good moisture content). Maybe try putting some type of rod/skewer through them, that wouldn't produce iron oxide of course.

I think I'm going to pick up a small rack in the houseware section. Something not rust-prone, consisting of a wire like/crisscross design that can sit low to the perilite.

I don't think this will dramatically improve yields, but it's all the small things that add up, right?

However, good luck & keep us updated.

-Tim


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: FakeRealism]
    #3377138 - 11/18/04 01:20 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Could try using bamboo skewers :goodluck:


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: RRhoads]
    #3382011 - 11/19/04 12:04 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Could try using bamboo skewers :goodluck:




For this method, using anything that can wick up water, or carry water, or hold water is bad, because it might suck water from cake, or even allow contams to grow in the thing that wicked up the water.

So im guessing all plastics must be used.


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: Search59]
    #3382018 - 11/19/04 12:05 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

what about using air pump tubing its pretty thick and i dont think it would cut into it.


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3382087 - 11/19/04 12:23 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

One upside about having them resting on something is you can put it on vermiculite to help give it moisture. Search said wicking water would be bad, but what if you put one end of the string in water so that it would give water to the cake instead of taking it. You might need 2 strings for that to work.


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: NoodleSalad]
    #3382096 - 11/19/04 12:26 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

just thinking somemore. what if you use the air pump tubing poke some little holes in it and then rig it up somehow to have the water deposite in the middle of the cake


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3382203 - 11/19/04 12:50 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

if you want to put something through it consider a galzenized nail. nickle isn't a very dangerous metal.. or while pcing you could insert stainless tube.


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3382205 - 11/19/04 12:51 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

"sounds lame, cause if you rip your cake then what are you going to do?"

You could make a casing out of it. Anyway, all good inventions start out as experiments, so I don't see what's wrong with giving it a shot, unless you feel you can't afford to sacrifice a couple of cakes should something go wrong.

"You want your cakes to be in contact with moist vermiculite."

Dunk & Roll?

Plus you could just mist them more if you were worried about moisture, I'd think.


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Re: HANG your cakes??? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3385239 - 11/19/04 06:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

lemon_lw said:
just thinking somemore. what if you use the air pump tubing poke some little holes in it and then rig it up somehow to have the water deposite in the middle of the cake




Now this is a pretty good idea. I wonder if this would do anything. Having the water resivior ABOVE the cakes, to allow gravity feeding.
Would sterile water with nutrients in it help? Would this cause super extended fruiting. Non-stop? For how long?


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