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Agaricus augustus
    #337308 - 06/07/01 09:12 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I suspect the mushrooms I found are agaricus augustus. Are there any poisonous mushrooms that smell like almonds and look like A. augustus? It was growing in a redwood forest right off the side of a trail. There was redwood debris "casing layer" on top of the fruiting mushrooms. No other mushrooms are fruiting in this forest and it's very dry! The center of the cap was brown, and it doesn't smell particularly pleasant there. The rest of the cap has brown "scales" and looks almost exactly like A. blazei. when I tore the veil open and smelled the gills, it smelled like sweet almonds. The cap stained yellowish when I rubbed it, but the bottom of the stem didn't seem to bruise. Anyone else finding this species right now?

Edited by Azure on 06/07/01 09:15 PM.



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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Azure]
    #339886 - 06/13/01 01:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds correct. This is the time of year for A. augustus. It tends to fruit in suprisingly dry conditions when nothing else will. The gills are slow to mature to the chocolate brown color and tend to stay white until very old. It fruits in forests and in yards and roadsides. I find often find them by driving around town and looking in peoples yards. The forest grown specimens tend to be smaller in my experience. All of them tend to be full of maggots and are hard to find in pristine condition.

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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Workman]
    #340120 - 06/13/01 09:50 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Ok I am a VERY YOUNG person at this hobbie, and I have a question for youse guys: Are Ports and Agaricus the same thing? Or ports and the common white mushrooms that every grocery store sells in those little plastic covered containers? I dont know what they are called, but everyone has them on salad and stuff. What are those?

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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: FungusFlipper]
    #340249 - 06/14/01 12:46 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Portabellos are mature large common brown button mushrooms cleverly marketed. Yes they are the same thing.

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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Workman]
    #343229 - 06/18/01 02:32 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

hmm...no maggots found in these specimens. The gills were definitely white before the veil tore. It seemed that they matured rather quickly-contrary to your observations. However, genetic diversity and different climate probably explains this difference. It was cold for about two weeks prior to the fruiting, and when it started to fruit, the temperature was unbearably warm(even at night). The mushrooms turned out to be very large-something like 3/4 a lb. each! I took a bunch of prints.

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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: FungusFlipper]
    #343540 - 06/18/01 01:04 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

no friend
white commonly saled mushrooms are Agaricus bisporus.
same genus but different species
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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Alexander]
    #346823 - 06/22/01 07:18 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

There's obviously a lot of confusion with the common agaricus we see at the supermarket. I'm starting to wonder if Stamets even knows what the hell he's talking about, but this is what he says: "The Portobello strain is a brown variety of the common button mushroom, Agaricus brunnescens otherwise known as Agaricus bisporus." I was under the impression that agaricus bisporus what the white button mushroom and Agaricus brunnescens was the portabello...I also thought the small brown button mushrooms commonly sold at grocery stores are A. brunnescens...



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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Alexander]
    #346824 - 06/22/01 07:19 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Workman-were you ever able to germinate A. augustus? What medium were you using? What ever happened?
There's obviously a lot of confusion with the common agaricus we see at the supermarket. I'm starting to wonder if Stamets even knows what the hell he's talking about, but this is what he says: "The Portobello strain is a brown variety of the common button mushroom, Agaricus brunnescens otherwise known as Agaricus bisporus." I was under the impression that agaricus bisporus what the white button mushroom and Agaricus brunnescens was the portabello...I also thought the small brown button mushrooms commonly sold at grocery stores are A. brunnescens...



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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Azure]
    #354530 - 07/14/01 04:23 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I heard something about the shade of color and shape are more substantially environmental phenomena than previously thought, rather than strictly genetic. Then there is the difference between species and strand.
I found some AA a few weeks ago, no redwoods in sight. Oak, Bay Laurel and some kind of pine. Dry conditions, partial sun. Right next to the Bay Laurel, possible from buried branch. They had no dirt, needles, leaves or twigs on top, very clean. Tasty, and hardly any worms! So far I had only eaten chantrelles and oysters.
Took a spore print, but no tissue culture. The print is not very clean.
Supposedly the blazeii has minimal agaratine, a mutagen, both have positive substances.




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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Augustus]
    #356613 - 07/18/01 02:47 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, my print wasn't very clean either. Of the plates that were not contaminated, none have germinated after a month...



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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Azure]
    #359389 - 07/23/01 01:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I can't get the spores to germinate on agar or a clone to grow. Nothing after several months. I heard that it is possible to get them to go on agar, but they grow weakly and slowly. I found a picture of them cultivated somewhere online. I am beggining to think they are not worth the effort now that blazei is readily available.

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Re: Agaricus augustus [Re: Workman]
    #360871 - 07/25/01 08:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Workman-did you get blazei to germinate? Somewhere at www.mushroomadventures.com is a picture of a cultivated A. augustus. I think that's what you're talking about. I'm going to keep trying with the print...



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