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The makeup of the insurgents
    #3372649 - 11/17/04 02:00 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I keep hearing alot of crap spouted about how all the insurgents are extremist muslims, foreign fighters or people who were close to Saddam etc. Havent seen much proof though. Is it possible that a large portion of these fighters are simply Iraqi's who object to the manner in which the US led liberation has been carried out?


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: GazzBut]
    #3372666 - 11/17/04 02:07 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The truth is we don't know who the insurgents are. They seem to be mostly Iraqis taking up arms against the occupation.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: GazzBut]
    #3372690 - 11/17/04 02:15 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

they are just freedom fighting patriots fighting a fight against a huge nazi army that has taken over their county. they are all patriots fighting for their home. the news makes you think they are terrorists but they arent. even if they blow them selves up or use car bombs and stuff. these are the only weapons they have against our huge army of hate.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3372694 - 11/17/04 02:16 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

AhronZombi said:
they are just freedom fighting patriots fighting a fight against a huge nazi army that has taken over their county. they are all patriots fighting for their home. the news makes you think they are terrorists but they arent. even if they blow them selves up or use car bombs and stuff. these are the only weapons they have against our huge army of hate.




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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3372929 - 11/17/04 05:51 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

sounds about the size of it


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3373008 - 11/17/04 07:07 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

:argh:


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3373021 - 11/17/04 07:13 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

What about when they are purposely targeting their own countrymen? Female aid workers?


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #3373082 - 11/17/04 07:50 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

They? Who is this they? Are you suggesting that all people involved in the insurgency support 100% the hostage takers actions..that is far from gaurunteed. Some have suggested that some of the hostage takers are actually just opportunitst criminals who thought they might be able to make some quick money somehow. All of the people fighting in Fallujah cannot be casually equated with all people involved in hostage taking. Although it is convenient to justify and whip up hatred of those who justly oppose the invasion of their country.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3373095 - 11/17/04 08:01 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

they are just freedom fighting patriots fighting a fight against a huge nazi army that has taken over their county.

news flash: the third reich ended almost 60 years ago. national socialism is dead. this "nazi this, nazi that" bullshit is tiresome and insulting to those who actually lived and died under hitler's brutal regime. give it a rest.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: GazzBut]
    #3373145 - 11/17/04 08:34 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Come now Gazz, I expect more from you - 23 skidoo.

Quote:

AhronZombi said:
they are just freedom fighting patriots fighting a fight against a huge nazi army that has taken over their county. they are all patriots fighting for their home. the news makes you think they are terrorists but they arent . even if they blow them selves up or use car bombs and stuff. these are the only weapons they have against our huge army of hate.




I said that in response to his blanket statement that the insurgents are all freedom fighters battling an occupying Nazi army. Obviously not true.

I have no doubt there are some Iraqis who have taken up arms in a fight they believe is against an occupying force. I believe they misunderstand the situation and are only compounding the problem but if that's their motivation, I can't blaim them. I think they would be better served to allow events to play out and see if we lived up to our obligations before going on the offensive unnecesarily though. But to purposely target their own countrymen who disagree with them is outrageous. To purposely target civilians who are there to help is inexcusable.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #3373166 - 11/17/04 08:48 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Ever seen The Matrix?

Ever heard GWB talk - 'if you are not with us, you are against us'?

Anyone who understands, and is behind GWB's actions in Iraq must see that his philosophy is exactly the same as that of his enemies.

Women and children by the thousands have been killed on GWB's say so - sure, mostly Iraqi's, but does their nationality actually make any difference?

What's the moral difference between Iraqi resistance killing a female aid worker (foreign, possibly married to an Iraqi) and the US military killing a bunch of kids, not yet into their teens, who are playing football?

Imagine an occupied country, it erupts into division and even civil war because some people support the invaders, some do not. If one is a part of the resistance and your countrymen have sold out, they become the invader's pawns, they become the enemy.

This is why the US is loosing the battle for hearts and minds because they have attempted to divide and conquer a culture. This divide and rule tactic has been used since time immemorial by colonising forces and empire builders. That's one of the main reasons why Africa and the Middle East got so fucked up in the first place. National borders set by the colonials never encircled cultural groups, they always divided them where possible. And we have lived with this legacy ever since.

In effect this means local inhabitants no longer belonged to a self defining country, cultural space or nationstate, instead ones brothers and psychological countrymen live abroad, while one is enjoined with one's enemies. Psychologically this is very difficult (for tribal peoples especially).

The tactic is, and has been, backfiring globally for some number of years, the resistance is growing and in places like Iraq it is stronger, more personal and more heartfelt by the day.

The lesson will eventually be learnt, that as with the division of Ireland, a compromise (which is the only way to peace) can only be reached around the table. The Irish situation was only resolved when the terrorists/freedom fighters/insurgents were allowed their own political party and their tormented voice given political respect.

Of course a lot of time is also needed, and the US agenda never allows for that. Quick fix by bomb is the yee-ha yahoo tactic the USAdmin uses abroad.

Compromise is a dirty word in Iraq....so peace will not come.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: ]
    #3373176 - 11/17/04 08:50 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

news flash: the third reich ended almost 60 years ago. national socialism is dead. this "nazi this, nazi that" bullshit is tiresome and insulting to those who actually lived and died under hitler's brutal regime. give it a rest.





Actually the nazi party is rising in popularity in Germany at a rate of knots right now. Facism is alive and well across the planet too.

Take a look at the world


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: CJay]
    #3373220 - 11/17/04 09:06 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

What's the moral difference between Iraqi resistance killing a female aid worker (foreign, possibly married to an Iraqi) and the US military killing a bunch of kids, not yet into their teens, who are playing football?

Exactly, which is why it's stupid to say that the US are "evil nazis" and the Iraqi insurgents are patriots.

It's silly to pick a side when both sides are using barbaric tactics. To say that it's okay to kidnap, torture, and murder american workers, and it's a war crime when the americans do it is just as ignorant as buying into the Bush administration's propaganda.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: CJay]
    #3373224 - 11/17/04 09:07 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Facism is alive and well across the planet too.

Alright, define facism then.  :smirk:


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Phluck]
    #3373287 - 11/17/04 09:27 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

fascism = silence others through name-calling and label people stupid, ignorant or from Texas when they don't agree with your way of thinking.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Phluck]
    #3373321 - 11/17/04 09:37 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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It's silly to pick a side when both sides are using barbaric tactics. To say that it's okay to kidnap, torture, and murder american workers, and it's a war crime when the americans do it is just as ignorant as buying into the Bush administration's propaganda. 


 


This is exactly what I am saying! You win todays star prize.

Haven't you worked it out - I'm not on anyones side!

What interests me is that everyone gets on their high horse about the aid workers, (shock horror - evil insurgents) yet most support the US brutality - doh!

I personally expect brutality all around and see no such thing as a crime in war, but the US likes to present itself as an endearing nation that is above so called "war crimes". Well, the US has to live with that righteous stance I guess since it is their own self made posture.

I just find it all funny - maybe you should get a sense of humour too.

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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: CJay]
    #3373349 - 11/17/04 09:45 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Definition:

The word fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini's, that

-exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual,

-uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition,

-engages in severe economic and social regimentation, and

- espouses nationalism and sometimes racism or ethnic nationalism.

In an article in the 1932 Enciclopedia Italiana, written by Giovanni Gentile and attributed to Benito Mussolini, fascism is described as a system in which:

"The State not only is authority which governs and molds individual wills with laws and values of spiritual life, but it is also power which makes its will prevail abroad.... For the Fascist, everything is within the State and... neither individuals or groups are outside the State.... For Fascism, the State is an absolute, before which individuals or groups are only relative."

sounds rather like ole GWB's philosophy at home and away

....And a lot of other nations fit that description too, (many even further than GWB's proto-state)....across the globe.

Like I said fascism is alive and well across the globe.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: CJay]
    #3373408 - 11/17/04 09:59 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

-exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual

america: 0
muslic theocrats: 0

-uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition,

america: 0
muslim theocrats: 1

-engages in severe economic and social regimentation, and

america: 0
muslim theocrats: 2

- espouses nationalism and sometimes racism or ethnic nationalism.

america: 0
muslim theocrats: 2

"The State not only is authority which governs and molds individual wills with laws and values of spiritual life, but it is also power which makes its will prevail abroad.... "

america: 0
muslim theocrats: 3


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #3373461 - 11/17/04 10:08 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Come now Gazz, I expect more from you - 23 skidoo.




Lol! Well speak a little more precisely and I wont have to correct you will I!!  :smirk:


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: ]
    #3373509 - 11/17/04 10:24 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The poser libertarian speaks!


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3373523 - 11/17/04 10:27 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Shouldn't you be strapping bombs to young children, you don't want to be late.  :rolleyes:


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #3373529 - 11/17/04 10:28 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Sick. Grow up, man.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: GazzBut]
    #3373647 - 11/17/04 10:55 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry.  I thought readers would look at who I replied to and infer my meaning from that. 

But just for you I'll try and remember to either quote what it is I am responding to or paraphrase the original posters remarks. 

Who says that left and right can't compromise?  :laugh:


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: ]
    #3373694 - 11/17/04 11:06 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

fucking hell man - are you not awake?

Bush is a brillant propaganda man, forcing a war on false evidence. Calling on the morality of the American people and using myth to shape it.

God speaks to him, and his spirituality in that leads to all his actions, which all must follow.

He is eroding the rights of the individual and heightening the role of the state in the individual's life, as well as the reach of the state into the individual's life. Power of central government is rising due to his methodology.



"you are free, to do what we tell you" - just like the members of any theocratic state.

"The State not only is authority which governs and molds individual wills with laws and values of spiritual life, but it is also power which makes its will prevail abroad.... " - GWB's exact stance.

And he damn well insists on prevailing abroad whether anyone likes it or not.

America rules! The rest of the world is second rate (only useful for political ends) and if one is not with him, one is against him.


Just so long as the cola keeps flowing and everyone gets their sugar and have the great freedoms of going to work and the mall and watching TV I guess that's all great.

Anyway my original point was that fascism is alive and well around the globe - which it is. From east to west, north to south in countries on every continent. GWB does not run the world's most fascist country and I was not originally pointing to him, but it is amazing how he is angling in on the fascist dream.

And he is dangerously close


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3373756 - 11/17/04 11:20 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The poser libertarian speaks!

poser libertarian?


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #3373979 - 11/17/04 12:26 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)


Shouldn't you be strapping bombs to young children, you don't want
to be late.


Aw....isn't it cute.  The little baby looks just like Zahid...um..
I mean zahudallah



And look at these fine young strapping lads at a Hamas rally.
They'll make their parents proud one day.

"Oh little Omar, I can't wait until you blow yourself to pieces in
an Israeli cafe packed with civilians!!"



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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3373991 - 11/17/04 12:29 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

"Oh little Omar, I can't wait until you blow yourself to pieces in

Don't worry - he'll probably get shot by a gung-ho Israeli soldier for the capital offence of throwing rocks at tanks long before then.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Xlea321]
    #3374043 - 11/17/04 12:39 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)


Don't worry - he'll probably get shot by a gung-ho Israeli soldier
for the capital offence of throwing rocks at tanks long before
then.

Yeah, Schlomo might do a pre-emptive strike on them..


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: CJay]
    #3374086 - 11/17/04 12:49 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Haven't you worked it out - I'm not on anyones side!

Oh, 'cause I got a different impression when you said you agreed with the guy calling the insurgents patriots who were fighting nazis.

I just find it all funny - maybe you should get a sense of humour too.

It's hilarious.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: ]
    #3374267 - 11/17/04 01:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3374275 - 11/17/04 01:31 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

How cute, they want to be martyrs. God love em, but they'll have to wait until they get older.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3374419 - 11/17/04 02:05 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yes.

can you explain what makes a poseur libertarian?


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3374529 - 11/17/04 02:25 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

zahudulallah said:
The poser libertarian speaks!



Dude, seriously get over yourself and grow up.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: silversoul7]
    #3374602 - 11/17/04 02:37 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Why do I need to "get over myself"?

At least you're true to your libertarian beliefs.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3378111 - 11/18/04 07:02 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Zahid, your past incarnation was permabanned. Your current incarnation is not immune to bans either. You were given a second chance. Don't blow it.

Please address the topic of the thread rather than what you judge to be shortcomings of other posters in the thread. I thank you in advance for your co-operation.

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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Phred]
    #3378436 - 11/18/04 08:37 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

To me, the most important element in Iraq is that a large part of the populace must be actively supporting the insurgents. The insurgents in Falluja obviously weren't working to earn money or grow food: They were provided with supplies, secrecy, and shelter by the ordinary people in the city. I was in SE Asia during the Viet Nam War, when the US was trying to "win the hearts and minds" of the Vietnamese--and it obviously didn't work. Mao Tse Tung said that the revolutionaries are like fish, and they must be able to swim in the waters of the local people, who support and provide for them. The Soviet empire crashed with hardly a whimper because the people no longer supported or believed in the Soviet system. In Iraq it's just the opposite. This is going to be a long, bloody war because GWB is either very stupid, very misinformed, or very imperialistic. Any bets on Iraq's upcoming elections going smoothly or solving anything at all?


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Phred]
    #3378935 - 11/18/04 10:30 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Get a grip Pinky..He hasnt flamed anyone. Whats that saying about power again?


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Phred]
    #3378978 - 11/18/04 10:40 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Please address the topic of the thread rather than what you judge to be shortcomings of other posters in the thread

Is "addressing the shortcomings" of other posters in the thread now a banning offence for everyone? Or just people you don't care for? Because zappaisgod must've posted a good dozen posts lately addressing what he clearly feels are "my shortcomings" with not a word from you.

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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Phred]
    #3379006 - 11/18/04 10:45 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

pinksharkmark said:
Zahid, your past incarnation was permabanned. Your current incarnation is not immune to bans either. You were given a second chance. Don't blow it.

Please address the topic of the thread rather than what you judge to be shortcomings of other posters in the thread. I thank you in advance for your co-operation.

pinky




In that case pinky, I would appreciate if luvdemshrooms and mushmaster stopped calling me a "poser" then.

Look pinky, the major controversy with my Zahid account was that I was flame baiting. I'm not doing that, and haven't done that so lay off, ok? You act as if I'm the only one here who "never addresses the topic" (is that even against the rules?) - and to my defense I address the topic more than some people who simply make one-line snide comments followed by a penis dance emoticon (we all know who that is). I'm just asking you to be fair. Peace, man.  :mushroom2:


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3379029 - 11/18/04 10:50 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus, pinkie must be one of the biggest culprits on the board for posts addressing what he feels are others "shortcomings". His usual excuse is it's ok because he is "merely telling the truth" when he does it.

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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3379049 - 11/18/04 10:55 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

you mean like this one?

Zahid said: (in the thread "Another female hostage found murdered - dismembered, disembowled, throat slit")

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Actually, the U.S. wanted all the males to stay in Fallujah.

Try again!

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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3379076 - 11/18/04 11:00 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Unfortunately I learned that from luvdem. But at least I addressed the topic.

Besides the point though!


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3379089 - 11/18/04 11:02 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

it's not besides the point. There is a definition which describes a person who comes down on others for doing the same thing they do on a regular basis. I'm sure you know what this definition is.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3379094 - 11/18/04 11:04 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah whatever.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3379109 - 11/18/04 11:06 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
it's not besides the point. There is a definition which describes a person who comes down on others for doing the same thing they do on a regular basis. I'm sure you know what this definition is.




lol you can't be serious. Try to find another penis dance under this account. Seriously this thread is being downgraded to school yard accusations. I wasn't ragging on luvdem for his use of emoticons as so much as how he and others don't address the topics.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: GazzBut]
    #3379111 - 11/18/04 11:06 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

PM me if you need a hint.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3379892 - 11/18/04 02:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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In that case pinky, I would appreciate if luvdemshrooms and mushmaster stopped calling me a "poser" then.



Well poser, since you claimed the "Zahid affair" was a social experiment.... wouldn't that make you a poser?

Why yes..... yes it would!

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Try to find another penis dance under this account.



Like this one?


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: GazzBut]
    #3379900 - 11/18/04 02:31 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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The makeup of the insurgents



I think they mostly wear mascara, with a touch of eyeshadow.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3382267 - 11/18/04 11:13 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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zahudulallah said:
Did I ever blame the U.S. directly for Abu Ghraib?

Quit being so fucking stupid and presumptuous when it comes to having dialogue with a Muslim.




I suppose this doesn't count as a flame either.


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #3382272 - 11/18/04 11:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

alah bless the insurgents


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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3382974 - 11/19/04 04:59 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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I see you're well rested from presenting zero opinion to this board.

:penis:



 

hmmmmmm....what's that definition again?

Taken from this thread: 
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Re: It's Over [Re: luvdemshrooms]
      #3316766 - 11/03/04 06:49 PM




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Re: The makeup of the insurgents [Re: silversoul7]
    #3383038 - 11/19/04 06:19 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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I think they mostly wear mascara, with a touch of eyeshadow.




Very tasteful!


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