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Question regarding Magash's rye method
    #3371171 - 11/16/04 10:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Put in a pot and the water is ready to simmer for 45 min. During the simmer is when the water is added to the grain



Ugh, his wording is so confusing. So, are you supposed to add the grain with alot of water, pour in a pot, and simmer for 45min? Magash says that "during the simmer is when water is added." I dont see how you can simmer just rye w/o water.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Phynatikus]
    #3371197 - 11/16/04 10:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

omg,you soak your rye for 24 hours to germinate the spores that are bad with in the rye,then you simmer the rye ina pan to complete the process,say like dry noodles how they soak up after heating? correct?

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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: djred]
    #3371226 - 11/16/04 10:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

he means, the grains become hydrated during simmering. You can start simmering the water first or add water and grains at same time. just dont start timing until the grains are simmering.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: derx]
    #3371238 - 11/16/04 10:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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derx said:
he means, the grains become hydrated during simmering.  You can start simmering the water first or add water and grains at same time.  just dont start timing until the grains are simmering.



Thanks derx, much more precise. I dont understand how some people can be so unclear with there posts, espically when explaining a new method. As most people know, there isnt too much room for error :smile:

( this post doesn't pertain to people who use english as a second language :smile: )


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Phynatikus]
    #3371356 - 11/16/04 10:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I edited it a bit to clarify some things in the process.
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/26177


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Anno]
    #3371439 - 11/16/04 11:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

thanks anno you definetly cleared that up for the newcomers.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Anno]
    #3371451 - 11/16/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yay.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Anno]
    #3371945 - 11/17/04 12:52 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

you a bad mother......Anno

Much Appreciated


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: TheGreatButtPaca]
    #3371966 - 11/17/04 12:56 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

That tek specifies one cup of rye per jar. Are those pints, half pints, or quarts?


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: KingBahamut]
    #3372098 - 11/17/04 01:21 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Should be quarts. I put a little more in (of rye grass seed, I haven't done rye).


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3372493 - 11/17/04 02:59 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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elgr said:
Should be quarts. I put a little more in (of rye grass seed, I haven't done rye).



AFOAF made the mistake of putting nearly 3 cups of rye berries in a quart jar. It makes shaking the jars w/ water a bitch, and he ended up with more seed than what his PC could handle at a time. It just ended up being a waste of seed :\
At 59 cents a pound, he can't complain too much.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Phynatikus]
    #3373217 - 11/17/04 11:05 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

3 cups is certainly overdoing it. the tek I read said use 300 ml of seed. I did, and added a ton more to each jar. Soaked, simmered, and PCed. looking at them now I wish I put a biti more in. Not too much, but its a slight waste of quart jars.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3373272 - 11/17/04 11:23 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

People....please don't be confusing rye grass seed with rye. These are 2 completely different things!
Magash's tek is about RYE, not rye grass seed.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Anno]
    #3373300 - 11/17/04 11:30 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, sorry about that. There are key differences in the absorbtion of water.

But, the tek works well for both. One of the great benefits being that you can tell how full a jar will be before PCing it, and not crack your jars :smile: Mine was for mexicana, and cervantes pointed me to the tek, which he said works great for grass seed too.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Anno]
    #3373308 - 11/17/04 11:32 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, I definately agree with Anno. Rye grass seed is alot smaller then rye berries. But to each his own. One thing Id like to say is that the original cup of rye you soak is just preliminary estimate. I soak the rye in individual jars so I can shake em and rinse easily the next day. But anyway it doesnt really matter how much rye you put in the jars because it all goes into one big pot anyway. Then you remeasure the jars 2/3 full with the now saturated rye. So more might be a better idea, because you can always add another jar (if you got em) or toss away the excess. I love Magashes tek, its worked like gold every time for me.

Two thing I think think should be more clear.

Simmering time should be more about the apparent saturation of the rye then timing.

Also you shouldnt start timing the rye until its simmering/boiling. I bring it right up to a boil then cut back the heat a little, and I dont stop heating until I see the grain start to split.

Water retention is sooo important in that tek, you gotta be careful.

Oh well Im ramblin, see you around.


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Re: Question regarding Magash's rye method [Re: Phynatikus]
    #3373556 - 11/17/04 12:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

For four more jars AFOAF added a little bit more than 1cup. Hopefully it comes out alright.


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