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tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do?
    #3369766 - 11/16/04 06:21 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

I thought these filters were suppose to keep mosture in.  After a couple of days after pc them, the rye on the top started drying out.  I shook them up a little but was wondering if This foaf should add some sterile water to the jars.  How many cc should he add.  Thanks.  Any advice would be appretiated.  :mushroom2:


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: encryptor]
    #3369786 - 11/16/04 06:24 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

tyvek doesn't hold moisture in because the holes in it are too large to hold water vapor in. Water in its' liquid state can't go through the holes, so it's good for keeping water out while you PC. It also allows some air exchange...


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3369876 - 11/16/04 06:37 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

next time keep foil on the tops over the tyvek, it will keep the moisture in.

i dont know about adding water, seems to me it would just pool up on the bottom.


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: MushBus]
    #3369902 - 11/16/04 06:41 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

i have heard of people injecting small 1-5cc amounts of sterile water into their cakes... not too many follow ups though, so probably not a very good tek :o


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3369910 - 11/16/04 06:43 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

how "dry" are your grains? adding foil will not prevent the moisture from escaping. Water vapor can still diffuse through the semi permiable membrane of tyvek. Can you get any pictures?


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: derx]
    #3369921 - 11/16/04 06:44 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

the foil actually reduces the air exchange, so it would help... somewhat. i don't know how much though.


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3369957 - 11/16/04 06:52 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

the foil makes a world of a difference.

My buddy uses just the ring and tyvek with foil on it the whole time colonizing. Without the foil some jars have dried up but the ones with the foil have had no probs, they colonized just fine, plenty of air exchange.

pc, remove foil, inject, tape, put og foil back on, make shroomies


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: MushBus]
    #3369980 - 11/16/04 06:56 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

You could also put tape on the tyvek, cut down the surface area.So far I've had good results useing wbs.


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3369994 - 11/16/04 06:59 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

I did inject sterile water last sunday, cause I did not use enough when I made the cakes. (140/40/40)
When you do it sterile (pc syringe, pc a jar with a hole stuffed with polyfill, afterwards suck water in syringe, wipe with alcohol, inject in cakes...

The point with cakes is that the water does not spread even through the cake this way...


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: KaptKid]
    #3369997 - 11/16/04 06:59 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

I read bandaid being better cause it comes more sterile?


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3370030 - 11/16/04 07:10 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

I guess I can see foil cutting down the amount of diffusion. I would also consider when adding this foil to lightly mist it, then put it down. This will create a humid enclosed area between the foil and the filter. Moisture in the jar will not diffuse to an area of higher concentration. (osmosis)


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: MushBus]
    #3370321 - 11/16/04 08:00 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

this friend already added 7 cc of water to them and they already sucked up the water. The foil ontop of the lid makes me believe the air exchange would be somewhat/mostly sealed which would sufficate the jars. not sure though. Anymore tips are thanked. Peace


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: encryptor]
    #3370340 - 11/16/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

no the jar will not be sealed from the foil. Most everyone that makes casings covers the casings in foil right after making them. The substrate doesn't need much oxygen exchange at all. So dont worry about it and think this will be a problem.


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Re: tyvek filters causing jars to dry out! What to do? [Re: derx]
    #3373080 - 11/17/04 09:49 AM (12 years, 19 days ago)

Dont inject. Rye will look dry but if you remember what it looked like completely dry when you first got it, im willing to bet it still looks much larger now, even if it dried out a little. Tyvek did not allow moisture to escape, it has to do with either your simmering time or the way you put the tyvek over the lid.

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