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Fucknuckle
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
#3363524 - 11/15/04 11:00 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will do a few experiments around here before the ground freezes. I have never tried to find buried gallons of water. I have only found buried water sources, water bearing pipes and such.
If I was required to find these then I would take your offer asap. But you have put limitations outside my experience.
Let me get back with you Swami.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#3363529 - 11/15/04 11:00 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Again, trust me, it's really not worth your time or energy in the first place anyway.
Of course it WOULD be if someone could ACTUALLY deliver the goods. First they could cop my $20K and then go for the Randi million. It is only a waste of time if someone knows that they cannot meet the simple unbiased terms of the wager based on their intial claims.
Why would I piss away $20K? Because it would be worth it to me to have my entire world view changed in an instant. But also after 5 years and thousands of posts from people boo-hooing about what a skeptical jerk I am, not ONE has even visited Vegas to take a poke at it. Not one has got off the plane to shut me up for once and for all. Shows strong belief from the claimant, eh?
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
#3363537 - 11/15/04 11:03 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hum........... I will be going to Vegas for a 2 week trip in the end of Nov. mabey we can make some type of Water challange then. I am going to have a very large sum of cash with me. So mabey I will make a bet with you.
I double up with you then hit the tables LOL
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3363546 - 11/15/04 11:05 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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arguments like these can be healthy as long as it doesnt turn out negative in the end.
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alternate communication via synchronization of experience [Re: Swami]
#3363557 - 11/15/04 11:07 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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say you walk in a field and 3 of you see the purple stalks of cut corn, which have not been purple until this stoned moment (shared vision event)- you look at eachother and plonk (perfect) - heavy telepathy event yes? Yes! well, no too... then one smartie thinks "ace of diamonds" and winks and the other two consider that it is about the shared experience and miss the test. the test is not related to the synchronized/shared event.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3363560 - 11/15/04 11:07 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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As you may understand, buried water sources may be quite large, spreading for many miles and my give surface clues. Also neither you nor I really want to spend the cash on the drilling. Besides, this type of experiment is extremely hard to control the variables and in deciding what is a hit. How deep do you drill, etc. ?
For your intial tests, you need not bury them. All you need do is to fill some 5 gallon containers and leave some empty and have a friend put them in cardboard boxes in your basement.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
#3363572 - 11/15/04 11:09 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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swami why do you you think up miserably boring tests for people to drag themselves through.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3363603 - 11/15/04 11:15 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not a ducking, but I will be in Orange County at the end of November. BTW, to any doubters, Frog can back that statement up as I told her last week that I would be in OC then.
If I am in town, we can do a small bet, but for such a large sum on both sides, I would want legal documents and several observers for both sides so that everyone feels the test and results are clear and fair.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
#3363644 - 11/15/04 11:26 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, but I only need my biker dad and his 45's to make sure you pay up.
LOL .........I have to go now later Swami
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3363827 - 11/15/04 12:10 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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**************** L I S T E N A L L O F Y O U . ******************* "When life goes in circles its so very hard to take..." We are ALL GUILTY. Guilty of feeding Swarmi's ego. This thread was about TELEPATHY!!! This type of thinking is precisly what is holding us back from making any progress, over and over again. Its the arguements that Swarmi probably loves. Its the stir that he has caused. It is BLATENTLY Swarms personal belief that ALL paranormal phenomena is not real and simply the misguided belief of the fools around him. He conveys this message consistantly in these types of thread. But, don't you see we have increased his belief. We are growing his ego. We have lost sight of our original goals. Swarmi's influence here has some good effects, tho. He is like a cat on the tails of newbies who will quickly have them in check. I just hate it when this happens ^ and we convert an interesting exploration of the mind into a childish ego frenzy. Its a sad, sad world.
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JacquesCousteau
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
#3363840 - 11/15/04 12:12 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said: Again, trust me, it's really not worth your time or energy in the first place anyway.
Of course it WOULD be if someone could ACTUALLY deliver the goods. First they could cop my $20K and then go for the Randi million. It is only a waste of time if someone knows that they cannot meet the simple unbiased terms of the wager based on their intial claims.
Why would I piss away $20K? Because it would be worth it to me to have my entire world view changed in an instant. But also after 5 years and thousands of posts from people boo-hooing about what a skeptical jerk I am, not ONE has even visited Vegas to take a poke at it. Not one has got off the plane to shut me up for once and for all. Shows strong belief from the claimant, eh?
Eh, before you go off the deep end with your little tangent, allow me to clarify: I was not referring to your silly little contests being a waste of time. I meant trying to have a debate of any sort with you is a waste of time. You know, because you're always right.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Ego Death]
#3363843 - 11/15/04 12:12 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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And you must learn how to deal with your world falling short of your own expectations
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Ego Death]
#3363874 - 11/15/04 12:19 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dano-
While I agree with you that it is a bunch of ego-feeding, at the same time no one person has the right to decide where a thread is going to swerve. It just happens.
If there was more to be said about telepathy, I imagine they'd be saying it.
Here's my contribution: I've never had a telepathic experience on Psilocybin.
However, I have had many occasions during which I was deep in thought about something, only to be suddenly jogged out of it and realize that the song I'm listening to is about what I was thinking.
But alas, upon further investigation I think it is fairly likely that the song implanted the thread of thought in my head in the first place. By the time I snap out of it I had been so deep in thought, I simply forgot how I got started on it.
In addition, it's very easy for song meanings (which are very vague most of the time) to be construed to mean what you want them to mean.
So anyway, my contribution is thus: I've never had a telepathic experience tripping or not tripping.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3363877 - 11/15/04 12:22 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have dealt with it,* thank you for telling me I should, tho.
*How?
I have left main stream society and I live in a mostly introverted world but hey I'm happy!
I would like to change the world but that does not mean I have a problem! It is not my duty to change the world, its just it would be nice! Get it???
Western culture install's certain mindsets, they are not the only ones!!!
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#3363882 - 11/15/04 12:22 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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all i can say is i have had an increibly bizarre experience of precognition/ESP while on psychadelics, and an examination of the facts will show that no form of hallucination is the culprit.
I was in my room alone at my cabin tripping out. It was late and i was having an intensely revelatory trip about the nature of reality. suddenly a wierd thought popped into my head. "my dad could be dead! my dad was in a car accident, hes in danger, he might die" i started freaking out
for about 5 minuites i was trying to put this out of my mind 'your just tripping out' i told myself 'dad is fine'
but i just couldnt get this bizarre surety that something had happend to my father out of my head. so finally i decided to call him and just see what was up, i wasnt going to blurt anything out but just say hi and make sure he was ok
i called him on his cellphone
'hi dad'
'hi son" (his voice sounded strange)
"hows it going?"
"oh ok... i just hit a bear on the highway"
a fucking bear with four cubs crossed the road and one of the cubs ran in front of his car.
I asked him how long ago it had happend, he said about 5 minuites, almost exactly the length of time i had been trying to convince myself that he wasnt in an accident.
but he was.
As you can see, there is no aspect of triping induced delusion/hallucination here. i had a premonition, phoned my dad and had it validated. i had sensed my dads impact, somehow, someway.
the chances of htis being a pure coincidence are so infintismally small as to be non existant.
The chance of a bear crossing the highway at the exact moment my dad passed that are? 1 in a billion. the change that bear had cubs? 1 in a few hundred at least, the chance that the bear had FOUR cubs (it was the last cub to cross the road that hit his car, so any less cubs and no accident would have happend) is one in many thousands. bears only VERY rarely have more than one or 2 cubs.
The chance that i would suddenly have a random premonition that my dad was in danger aT EXACTLY the same time that he hit that bear cub?
one in several billion probably.
so there ya go thats my story.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#3363891 - 11/15/04 12:25 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I disagree. How can anyone say it, when it takes so long to read through all the EGO shit your completely off topic by then.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#3363909 - 11/15/04 12:28 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I meant trying to have a debate of any sort with you is a waste of time. You know, because you're always right.
Not at all. But what if I am ACTUALLY right? Then what? If someone proposes a falsehood, show I go, "OK, it's your turn for a change. You get to be "right""?
Rational discussion begets rational discussion. Inconsistency and outrageous claims get challenged. Simple, eh?
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Ego Death]
#3363920 - 11/15/04 12:31 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Funny.. it seems that both myself and moonshoe have contributed to the on-topic subject in just the last few moments, despite having to read through all the "ego shit".
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Moonshoe]
#3363924 - 11/15/04 12:31 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have yet to experience anything on psylocybin but I have seen the future with undeniable certainty on weed. Therefore I know its not only possible, but likely that things altering the mind could or could not enhance the experience. lol I actually came here to write the same post! I mean I was going to start a thread on wether any formal research with drugs psi powers has been done because I believe this to be overlooked.
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
#3363927 - 11/15/04 12:32 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whatever you say, man. Like I said, you're always right...
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