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OfflineMike_Ologist
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Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences?
    #3362713 - 11/15/04 04:31 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

(This was originally posted in another section, but I think it is more relevant here).

I just read this interesting paper:
The Effects of THC and Psilocybin on Paranormal Phenomena

And this article:
The Influence of Psychedelics on Remote Viewing

The researchers claim that psilocybin greatly increases telepathy and/or clairvoyance. I've read several other studies indicating that LSD as well as n,n-DMT, and especially combos with harmaline, cause such experiences.

Has anyone here experienced anything like this? Ever read your friend's thoughts while the two of you were tripping?

I'd be interested to hear about such experiences, and to gather them in this thread. Please share.


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Mike_Ologist]
    #3362789 - 11/15/04 05:20 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Well taking tryptamines (psiloc(yb)in (4-OH-DMT), 5-MeO-DMT, DMT, haramala alkaloids, etc) is a quantum leap in our evolution of the brain that functions with hyperspace. You are changing serotonin (5-HT) levels.

By advanced chances in neurochemistry of neurotransmitters via tryptamines.

Remote viewing is also creating an accidental event of hyperspace and is a leap forward interto hyperspace with the human species.


Edited by Tag_Number (11/15/04 05:26 AM)


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Tag_Number]
    #3362801 - 11/15/04 05:37 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

On mushrooms with my best friends, we've experience universal telepathy several times. He'd be about to say something, and i'd say it to the T right when he was about to say it. It's sort of a oneness thing where you find out all knowledge is within (you are god). On DMT, my best friend seen the future (he is the most trustworthy guy i know). I think the implications of psilocybin and other psychedelic chemicals are insanely HUGE!


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Mike_Ologist]
    #3362840 - 11/15/04 06:23 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

As paranormal phenomenon cannot be demonstrated while sober, they cannot be amplified when tripping.

PP = 0

PP * 100 = 0

What we do know is that normal cognitive functioning is highly disrupted when tripping, showing us many falsehoods and distortions. If you believe that you are actually telepathic when tripping, then you must equally believe that the walls are actually breathing and the colors on your poster are ACTUALLY dripping. Or you can question the entire experience.

The Swami $20,000 Telepathic Challenge holds for tripping and sober states equally.


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
    #3362843 - 11/15/04 06:30 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Hahaha, you are one funny character. Falsehoods? Isn't truth in the eye of the beholder? How am i supposed to convey a universally telepathic message, when you aren't grounded in your true being to be able to recieve it? I'm sure you'll read that last sentence and correct it somehow...hehe, you crack me up. There is no way to argue with you, you have all valid points, but somehow...you are devious in your ways. I AM GOD!


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: DMTelepath]
    #3362846 - 11/15/04 06:36 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Ok, let's say a 'buddha' takes mushrooms. Is he going to see these visual patterns on the walls and such, or is he so grounded into his true self, that all he sees is truth? I can't really argue with you about this swami, as i don't think you're buddhist and hold the same beliefs. It'd be a pointless arguement (meaning you'd win). Dammit, just trying to reply to you is hard and i can't convey what i really mean to say. Have you ever givin anybody a 5 shroom rating before? Just curious, lol.

EDIT: Also, what if my best friend were to tell you about him seeing the future on DMT, and then it taking place not 2 minutes later? Would you consider him unwise?


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: DMTelepath]
    #3362854 - 11/15/04 06:47 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

What if this; what if that... How about what IS or is not?

Someone is always ABOUT to show me something sometime soon, but can never actually do anything more than talk.


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
    #3362865 - 11/15/04 07:02 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Maybe telepathy and other paranormal happenings are on a more personal level, and cannot be shown to someone. How is my friend supposed to show you that he seen the future on DMT (which could possibly be the only time it'll ever happen to him)?


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
    #3363298 - 11/15/04 11:49 AM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I see you have made several 20,000 dollar challenges. But when anyone offers to put the cash up you shut up.

You are offering nothing but child like silly arguments.

Your info,idea or theories cannot be proved anymore than the other guy. So you make these stupid bets that you will never show up for and even if you do there will be no way for anything to be proven. Your ego is protected but you look like a ass.

You keep making these outlandish arguments but you have no backbone.

If you were to consume Datura more than once. Allow yourself the time and fear to control this drug. You may change your mind. On this subject. Datura can take you to these places.

How old are you anyway? 18

You sure have read alot of books in such a short time.


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3363401 - 11/15/04 12:16 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Save your breath, man. Trust me.. it's not worth "getting into it" with him.

And, not to be rude, but if I were you I would not state things that I can't necessarily confirm. I'm referencing these parts in particular:

"But when anyone offers to put the cash up you shut up."

" So you make these stupid bets that you will never show up for"

"how old are you anyway? 18"

It's one thing to try to call him out, like a LOT of us have... but by making presumptions like that you end up making yourself look foolish and discredit your own argument.

Again, trust me, it's really not worth your time or energy in the first place anyway.


Edited by JacquesCousteau (11/15/04 12:27 PM)


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OfflineMike_Ologist
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Swami]
    #3363409 - 11/15/04 12:21 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
As paranormal phenomenon cannot be demonstrated while sober, they cannot be amplified when tripping.





First, I am not convinced that there is no evidence for psi phenomena. There are a number of papers which haven't been convincingly "debunked," IMO. But more importantly, while technically such abilities could not be amplified if they didn't exist while sober, this doesn't imply that they could not be created while tripping.

In any case, I didn't open this thread as a scientific debate over telepathy--there's already a thread for that. This is purely for anecdotal evidence, and I'd appreciate it if we let it stay that way.


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3363418 - 11/15/04 12:24 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:
How old are you anyway? 18

You sure have read alot of books in such a short time.




You surely have over-extended yourself here, with your assumptions concerning Swami... you've lost your balance and you will either be calmly pushed over, or will fall on your own, from the force of your action that created the imbalance. :smirk:

Balance is essential, balance is key. Balance and being go hand in hand.


This is all I will say. :grin:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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For I've never known completeness
Like being here
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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3363427 - 11/15/04 12:28 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Mabey but I am a sucker for this type of thing. Besides I really don't give a shit what people think about me. I have many faults

But this guy Swami is a gem. He is just like my 2 year old kid. Always putting her thoughts into everything but talking from her diaper.

He reads one other person's fact,decisions or idea's and it becomes his very word. He pulls from others hard work to fuel his points of view. But the problem with standing on others experiences comes when you try to prove anothers experiences wrong.

He makes himself look very stupid. So I get some kind of enjoyment from his childlike thought process.

See I have some faults But, I dont care. Swami is a fool. I like him.


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3363438 - 11/15/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I'm not trying to point out your faults, that's not the point I was making.

I'm well aware of the way Swami is.. (the word "stubborn" comes to mind) I'm just trying to let you know that no matter what you say, he's still going to be that way. *shrug*

if you get a kick out of trying to change the unchangeable, be my guest.


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3363443 - 11/15/04 12:33 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

So you are saying that my thoughts have created some type of misbalanced, misguided result??

Well mabey. But the only way I will fall is if I stand and right now I am sitting.

You can defend him if you like. But I really don't see the point.

Swami is way off balance if you ask me. What type of person goes around trying to prove his points with huge unatainable bets??

A crazed ego man with zero balance.


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It is as it is, so suffer thru it.


Edited by Fucknuckle (11/15/04 12:38 PM)


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3363447 - 11/15/04 12:34 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Oh I see your point. Ya I can be a sucker for others ego's.

You are very correct.


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3363449 - 11/15/04 12:35 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I have faults, but this person over here is stupid for his faults. I don't care about my faults... maybe he doesn't care about his?

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3363467 - 11/15/04 12:40 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

The sun is life and the sun is death

Why not speak in a way that a human can understand. Not all smart people can read your riddles. ( but I did ) :smile:

Peace as they say. :mushroom2:


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3363476 - 11/15/04 12:45 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:
The sun is life and the sun is death

Why not speak in a way that a human can understand. Not all smart people can read your riddles. ( but I did ) :smile:

Peace as they say. :mushroom2:




My messages come in suitable form depending on the intended audience. No common form of expression is held by me. Message fufills the purpose, and message flows naturally through me, taking whichever form is necessary.

By the way, I'm glad you "read my riddle". :wink:
Are you human? :grin:

:mushroom2:  :heart:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: Psilocybin and telepathy--experiences? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3363506 - 11/15/04 12:55 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

What type of person goes around trying to prove his points with huge unatainable bets??

Is that the correct question? Why do you not question the motivation of those spreading falsehoods? Why not ask why the claimants are so ballless when the rubber meets the road?

BTW, most all of my challenges were one-sided, meaning that the claimant did not have to put up even a dime to bet, just transportation and hotel fair. Seems even that little bit was too much.

As to your dowsing bet, here is the deal as the terms are quite simple. I, or my crew, will bury 40 containers in the desert roughly five foot deep, each marked by a flag. 20 will contain water and 20 will be empty. If you can identify 38 correctly, you will win the $20K, if not I will win your $20K. We can do this in the spring as it will take some time to set up with witnesses and legally securing the money and all.

*Begin dance here*


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