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 CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. 
#3345444 - 11/11/04 03:47 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dangerous testing went beyond vets
Orphans, prisoners among those used
November 11, 2004
BY DAVID ZEMAN
Detroit Free Press
In February 1953, the Pentagon issued tough new rules to protect people who took part in experiments. Military researchers were required to warn volunteers of the dangers involved and have them confirm in writing that they were not coerced.
The directive was blunt, uncompromising and humane.
And two months later, it was gutted.
In April 1953, the military helped the CIA launch a Cold War program known as MKULTRA, in which unsuspecting servicemen and civilians were given LSD and other psychedelic drugs to study their use as truth serums.
This cycle of government deception continued well into the 1970s, with thousands of Americans exposed to nuclear radiation, plutonium injections, chemical sprays from airplanes, open-air nerve agents and mescaline in secret tests.
The tests flouted the principle of informed consent in the Nuremberg Code, drafted after the Nazi war-crimes trials in 1947 as an ethical standard for human experimentation.
Sometimes the victims were military personnel. Often they were from society's most vulnerable populations: mentally ill people, prison inmates, poor or illiterate people, pregnant women, children who were retarded or orphaned, drug addicts or prostitutes.
"You've got to ask yourself, how did these scientists sleep at night?" said David Rothman, director of the Center for the Study of Society and Medicine at Columbia University and an expert on the history of human research.
The scientists slept, said expert Jonathan Moreno, by convincing themselves that their tests ultimately would save lives.
"They came to view their work as a patriotic thing to do," said Moreno, director of the Center for Biomedical Ethics at the University of Virginia and author of "Undue Risk: Secret State Experiments on Humans." "And they came to think that the volunteers knew what was going on, even if they didn't know all the details."
The Cold War tests mimicked many of the elements of the World War II chemical experiments. The soldiers exposed to LSD, for instance, were lured with promises of liberty passes and a guarantee that they could avoid guard or kitchen duty if they remained silent.
During the Cold War, however, the CIA largely funded the tests. The spy agency was feverishly studying mind-control techniques amid reports that captured U.S. troops were being brainwashed in the Korean War and that Soviet and Chinese scientists were testing truth serums.
In the U.S. tests, Americans were surreptitiously given the hallucinogens LSD or mescaline; PCP (angel dust), a highly addictive anesthetic that can cause delusions and mood swings, or BZ, a hallucinogenic incapacitating agent. Many of the people tested suffered hallucinations, flashbacks and permanent personality changes. In one notorious case, a CIA operative slipped LSD into the after-dinner drink of Army biochemist Frank Olson in 1953. He grew increasingly agitated and paranoid. So the CIA shipped Olson to New York City to see a doctor. In the predawn hours of Nov. 19, 1953, Olson crashed through his 10th-floor hotel window onto 7th Avenue below. His death was ruled a suicide.
Olson's family did not learn that he was given LSD until 1975. Relatives eventually received a $750,000 settlement and an Oval Office apology from President Gerald Ford. They continue to assert Olson was pushed to his death, a charge the CIA has denied.
The agency destroyed its MKULTRA records in 1972.
During the Cold War, the government also exposed tens of thousands of U.S. servicemen to radiation in tests designed to gauge troop readiness during nuclear attack. Recruits were positioned within a mile or so of a nuclear detonation and told to cover their eyes. They reported that even with their eyes shut they could "see the bones in their forearms at the moment of the explosion."
They were never warned of the long-term dangers of radiation exposure. Indeed, the majority were not even classified as research volunteers; they were merely soldiers engaged in training exercises, according to Moreno.
Studies later linked the "atomic soldier" tests with inoperable cancer or leukemia.
Government research abuse was not confined to the military.
In the 1960s and early 1970s, a series of scandals in academic and government research studies on institutionalized patients with mental illness, orphaned children, and the impoverished sparked outrage, most notably in 1972 when the Tuskegee syphilis study was exposed. In that case, government scientists deliberately withheld penicillin from illiterate black men for decades to study the course of the disease.
"There was a kind of vague understanding among researchers that anyone being taken care of in a charitable institution had a moral obligation to give something back to society," Moreno said.
The scandals produced wide-ranging reforms in federally funded testing, including the requirement of independent peer review.
In 1976, Ford signed an executive order banning intelligence agencies from using humans in drug experiments without their informed, written consent. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan later expanded the order to all human tests.
"What went on back in the 1950s and '60s could not go on now," Rothman said. "Are there aberrations? Yes. Are there guys who approach or cross the line? Yes. But you cannot now infect mentally retarded children in institutions with hepatitis to study it; it can't be done. In the war against disease, the lines are much more clearly drawn."
Related story Veterans kept the military's secret, some until death
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: veggie]
#3345756 - 11/11/04 08:00 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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The US Govt makes me sick.
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: Organic]
#3361633 - 11/14/04 08:11 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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War, violence, and those that promote it make me sick.
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: veggie]
#3362307 - 11/14/04 11:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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significant elements in that organization are a part of a criminal enterprise
they do what they are told to do
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: usefulidiot]
#3362802 - 11/15/04 03:37 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Old news> Read acid dreams the hitory of acid: the cia the sixties and beyond talks all about MKULTRA and a lot of other fucked up things the gov has done
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: sui]
#3363261 - 11/15/04 09:30 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, it is definitely old news. I think the reason we are seeing more stories about the CIA LSD experiments and project MKULTRA in newspapers and magazines recently is because of the upcoming movie project BLACKBIRD.
Tobey Maguire (Spiderman) is producing this for Columbia Pictures. It will be about Dr Frank Olson who fell (murder or suicide??) from a 10th floor window one week after being given LSD by the government and the subsequent 20 year cover-up.
It sounds like it will be a very interesting movie, but it is not scheduled to be released til 2006.
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: veggie]
#3363281 - 11/15/04 09:40 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
The soldiers exposed to LSD, for instance, were lured with promises of liberty passes and a guarantee that they could avoid guard or kitchen duty if they remained silent.
I wish that this program would have been active at my permanent duty station. You something good for keeping your mouth shut about getting something good.
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: Ekstaza]
#3373336 - 11/17/04 09:40 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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How about a full-intensity interrogation on 500mcg of LSD?
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: Asante]
#3373489 - 11/17/04 10:17 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Wiccan_Seeker said:
How about a full-intensity interrogation on 500mcg of LSD?
No thanks, just give me my dose and let me be.  
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: Ekstaza]
#3373909 - 11/17/04 12:10 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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how about slipping it into enlisted men's morning OJ & sending them out on maneuvers (with the poor dumb g i joe never having a clue about strong psychotropics, and wondering why his gun is melting and the sky is cracking open and his brain is feeling something closer to poisoned, rather than enlightened, and not knowing if this is IT & if he will ever, ever, ever come back to reality...
so the CIA spooks (& army docs & officers) get some fukn medal that has to be presented in secret for services rendered to uncle sam during time of cold war...
& tim leary & the few other academics who told their subjects exactly what was going to happen (& often took the drug with the subjects) & did their level best to see that everybody comes outa the far side of chapel perilous reasonably intact (in not exactly "sane", heh...) --- these guys get hassled & shut down & de-funded & (for leary declared "the most dangerous man alive" & locked up in solitary)...
i mean, go figure...
(historical note: presidential adviser hermann khan used to take CIA acid & watch B52 bombing-run movies from viet-nam; maybe it helped him plan better ways to bomb them gooks back into the stone age, i dunno...)
"interesting times" no?
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: veggie]
#3377122 - 11/17/04 11:14 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tobey Maguire (Spiderman) is producing this for Columbia Pictures. It will be about Dr Frank Olson who fell (murder or suicide??) from a 10th floor window one week after being given LSD by the government and the subsequent 20 year cover-up.
It sounds like it will be a very interesting movie, but it is not scheduled to be released til 2006.
No shit? Awesome.
That movie could be good for the counter-culture, who knows? It will probably be necessary to show LSD's great scientific history. Most people aren't aware that there were ever any emotional or spiritual benefits of the drug.
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: veggie]
#3380635 - 11/18/04 05:16 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Heck folkes, in my country, the authorities continued to experiment with LSD, untill the late 70`es, everybody with a mental disorder was a potential victim to their research with this newly discovered chemical. People thought it would revolution psychic therapy.
But all they ended up with, was a couple of thousands of people with severe extreme mental disorders, even people with very little illness, was exposed to LSD, while they were tied up at the hospital beds for days. At one particular hospital, they had a basement with 200+ beds, just for people to test out LSD::::::
Now that is some fucked up shit....
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Re: CIA gave LSD to servicemen, orphans, prisoners, and the mentally ill. [Re: Wheedhead!]
#3380845 - 11/18/04 05:54 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I heard the cia also gave lsd to important members of the government to see how it effected their decision making abilities
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