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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: Fungi_x]
    #3355442 - 11/13/04 11:45 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

principle

PRINCIPLE

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: OJK]
    #3355531 - 11/13/04 12:06 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

what the "princicple" eh? Certainly not any normal priniciples, by any standard Billly G is a SAINT. You do know bill gates runs the biggest charity on the planet, right? The Gates foundation donates more money and software/hardware annually than any other charity EVER. HOLY SHIT WHAT AN EVIL BASTARD. OMG KILL THAT RICH FUCK.

And by the way, as for MS being an evil company..... maybe if you actually took the time to learn something about them instead of just following the common ignorance you'd realize they're not a bad company at all. If I had my choice of companies to work for, I'd choose MS. They treat every single one of their employees like royalty. You'd be hard-pressed to find a happier employee. And if you hate their business tactics, you tell me you or any other company wouldnt have done the exact same things in MS's position. It's called capitalism.

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: Turd]
    #3355599 - 11/13/04 12:19 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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you tell me you or any other company wouldnt have done the exact same things in MS's position.





Erm, yes, I wouldn't have done anything that Microsoft has done, because I think they're the scum of the earth, along, more or less, with pretty much any other massive corporation that currently exists. In addition to producing shitty software, there is a pretty extensive list of reasons to hate Microsoft, but seeing as you seem to have no problems with big business, I can tell there would be no point in explaining them.

It's called unchecked capitalism, and I fucking hate it.

And if I had the money of Gates, I too would give massive quantities to charity; would that make me a good person? Would that mean that I was better than poorer people who gave the same percentage of their wealth but didn't happen to have hundreds of millions of dollars? I don't think so.

Having more money than you could possibly spend and then giving most of it away doesn't make someone a good person.

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he guys donating more than 75% of his wealth to charity when he dies


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1. He's fucking dead, he can't spend it anyway, and

2. WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING WITH THE OTHER 25%? A portion that will constitute hundreds of millions of dollars? Where's this money going?

Better to applaud the millions of poor and middle-income people who donate money to charity but can't really afford to.

Microsoft and Bill Gates are scum.

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: OJK]
    #3355621 - 11/13/04 12:22 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

2. WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING WITH THE OTHER 25%? A portion that will constitute hundreds of millions of dollars? Where's this money going?

uhhh, wife kids other relatives.


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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: beejay]
    #3355640 - 11/13/04 12:26 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

like those people need hundreds of millions of dollars?

This is my point, it's easy to give money to charities if you keep seven figure plus amounts for yourself and your family.

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: beejay]
    #3355660 - 11/13/04 12:32 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

i really dont understand how you feel bill gates = satan. hahah is he enslaving young children in foreign countries to produce cheaply made clothing. or running a nazi dictatorship that publicly executes citizens of their own country. i dunno microsoft is a software company, im sorry but its a business and the purpose to any business is to make money. im sorry if you think making money is an evil thing, but it keeps alot of people fed at the end of the day.

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: OJK]
    #3355698 - 11/13/04 12:45 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I have yet to hear an actual reason why you dont like MS besides the fact that you're not getting any of bill's money when he dies. You're just blindly hating them because they're big. In fact I'm starting to doubt if you really know anything all about MS or Bill.

You know the only other console with popular mod chips is playstation, right? Sony has actually gone after the people that make the mod chips. I could be wrong, but microsoft hasnt even gone that far yet.

MS is a big business, yes, but they dont commit the crimes that make most big businesses bad. MS is good to the little guy. They don't mow down houses to make room for factories. They dont pollute. They dont fuck over their employees. They dont fuck with people.

Bill G is a good guy. He is nice. He doesnt use his money to make himself popular or hog the lime-light. Anyone who has interviewed him or met him seems to have liked him.

Now give me ONE FACT why you dont like them. One actual THING they have done that makes them evil.

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: Turd]
    #3355731 - 11/13/04 01:01 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

The formost reason is that they encapsulate the predatory, aggressive and exploitative market tactics that plague capitalist societies; they steal code, they design windows-integrated software specificly to exlude smaller companies from the market, they establish incredible market dominance and their software is as a result proliferated so widely that I am forced to use Microsoft products or convert everything at great personal cost and inconvience. Thier software and operating systems are terrible, buggy, stupid, insecure and slow, yet using equivalents (e.g. the far superior OSX) is inconvient because everything else is run on microsoft software . I can't buy a package pc without paying for a copy of windows that I don't want. Add to this financial irregularites that again are endemic of massive business, and you have a few of the reasons I hate them.

A few links;

http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_5.html

http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/edcurry/fool.portfolios.rulemaker.2.html

http://lists.essential.org/1998/info-policy-notes/msg00047.html

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: relativexistance]
    #3355769 - 11/13/04 01:10 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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relativexistance said:
i really dont understand how you feel bill gates = satan. hahah is he enslaving young children in foreign countries to produce cheaply made clothing. or running a nazi dictatorship that publicly executes citizens of their own country. i dunno microsoft is a software company, im sorry but its a business and the purpose to any business is to make money. im sorry if you think making money is an evil thing, but it keeps alot of people fed at the end of the day.




Yes, making money can be a good thing and capitalism can be a good thing, but only within strict limits; when competition encourages innovation, it's a positive force, but when society permits competition to enable big businesses to shove smaller ones out of the market, it's a negative force.

And yes, Microsoft happens to make software, so it doesn't use third world labour or generate huge amounts of pollution, but then again software production doesn't lend itself to these practises in the same way the manufacture of clothes does. The reason behind 3rd world exploitation, in my opinion, is not that clothes companies are evil and Microsoft is good, but that exploitation is a product of the unchecked capitalism that has emerged in the West with the growth of big business, specificly the corporate structure. It's this attitude, which Microsoft displays in abundance, that I feel is responsible for the ills of all corporate structures, so the face that it's not profitable for Microsoft to outsource software coding to a sweatshop doesn't vindicate them of guilt.

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: OJK]
    #3355907 - 11/13/04 01:46 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

OMG I HATE M$
LOOK AT ME HATING... SEE

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: OJK]
    #3355916 - 11/13/04 01:47 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

you post some valid arguments that i agree with, monoplies are counter productive and microsoft does somewhat control their market in such a way. however i feel it is just good business for them to do such; you want to eliminate your competition to be successful. i wouldnt categorize them as "satan" a immortal entity, but human; because humans inherently desire for success and that can only be achieved by eliminating their enemies.

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: Spongerock]
    #3355923 - 11/13/04 01:49 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

hate often just = jealousy
its a sad fucked up world we live in but it is what it is

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: relativexistance]
    #3355957 - 11/13/04 01:58 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

the thing is im not saying the corporations or rich elitist fuckers that hoard money are good, im just saying that they are no different than you or i. a machine bent on its own satisfaction and enjoyment and desire for more, more to create, more to take, more to divour. without this desire their would be no procreation, which in its own self is,when genetically broken down the desire to spread one's own genetic code. to survive we often believe having the most can support us the best. to not care for more is to go against your own genetics, to not desire for a bigger and stronger empire. either way the only way i think true growth can occur is from not having greed. but greed is inborn so it will take a long time to eliminate it from our own selves.

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Re: Microsoft uses Halo 2 to fuck chipped consoles [Re: Turd]
    #3356419 - 11/13/04 03:56 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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this is fuckin retarded....  you hack microsoft's product and then get pissed off when they try to prevent people from doing it?  Any geek should know better than to try and play a modded xbox on xbox live.... it's called common sense.

Microsoft is within it's rights to do that and I might have done the same in their place.  Don't be a whiny little bitch.




lol! So true  :grin:

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