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Offlinepsychedelicatessen
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My first pin! (pic)
    #3354442 - 11/13/04 03:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)



JUST when I was about to come whining to you guys about no sign of pins....up sprouted a little lonley pin!! hurrahh! My cake has been in its mini-pmp for over a week now.

Everything was looking good for my first cake...I dunk/coldshocked/rolled it and the myc broke through the new verm layer the next day and the cake was overall looking very nice...But I think its not getting to use its full potential because of its surroundings.

Basically my pmp is a very small tupperware containers that holds 3 cakes max. The sides of the pmp are foggy clear but the lid is solid. This is already a problem, not sure how much of a problem but something tells me the cake would prefer to have light coming in fromt he top only.

I have about 1.75 inches of perlite on the bottem. As for water content, I cant really tell precicly where the water level is. But ide say the water is half way up the perlite. When I first popped the cake into the pmp I would mist once a day but after a few days I didnt think it would be nessesary because my hygromter read "-- --" which im assuming means over 100%rh. After all, the container is pretty small so the cake SHOULD be getting all the humidity it needs and more. But Im not sure. What do you think? Is misting really needed if your RH is already high?

I also fan about 3-6 times a day, all at random times.

The temps stay at 68-70 (which could be another problem) when its getting light. I keep my pmp in my room which gets indirect sunlight that shines threw the curtains from about 1pm-5pm...My bedroom light is on from 1pm-2AM. So its only getting a good amount of light for 3-4 hours a day, the rest is from my ceiling light and my lava lamp that my pmp sits next to. im not sure if its getting enough light AND hours of light. What do you think?

Thats basically it. Im still trying to find ways for it to get more light and a temp of 75. Other then that...today she popped a pin and made me happy!!

PLEASE, any comments and/or tips would be highly appreciated!


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: psychedelicatessen]
    #3354450 - 11/13/04 04:02 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

your hygrometer obviously has a cutoff. it is also not possible to have more then 100% RH.. To initiate pinnin you want to drop the temp to mid 70's as you know. Perhaps to give it lighting 12-16 hours a day (which is the range to initiate pinning) you could get some christmas lights even a cheap lamp would work.. i see them for less then 10$ everywhere. the lighting is prob the issue.


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: psychedelicatessen]
    #3354452 - 11/13/04 04:03 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

your temp is killing you. i wouldn't worry about the light at all.


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: psychedelicatessen]
    #3354456 - 11/13/04 04:04 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Everything sounds good :thumbup: i wouldnt worry about the light, all it basically does is tell the mushrooms which way to grow :smile: hopefully you'll be getting some more pins in no time!


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: aussieone]
    #3354464 - 11/13/04 04:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you can't have over 100% humidity, that uhh....gravity would pull that striaght down...anyways, good stuff and gl and uhh...get ur temp. up a bit and that should help bring more pins : )


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3354480 - 11/13/04 04:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

SWEET! After looking at the pic, I spotted another pin! you can see it in the first pic.

And about the humidity, I just found out my hygrometer has a limit of 95% so that would explain that:)


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: psychedelicatessen]
    #3354607 - 11/13/04 05:54 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You know what... I just noticed that your cake looks like it was packed when you made it.(don't ask me how I know it, it's from experiences) You might not get a crazy flushes. You'll probably get few large(but slowly growing) ones. But the longevity will be slightly better. Shoot for 4-5 flushes.

Good luck

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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: Sam1912]
    #3354898 - 11/13/04 10:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

When cakes are tightly packed, do they grow better as casings?


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: EuphoricDisaster]
    #3354904 - 11/13/04 10:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I dont think that packing a cake would work better for a casing, considering you just crumble it up again, you might get more substrate for it, but it would be much faster to let 2 jars loose and colonize in half the time, then use both.

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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: call_me_kido]
    #3354908 - 11/13/04 10:29 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I wish huge meaty fruits upon you. :smile:


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3354911 - 11/13/04 10:31 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

what I mean is, I already packed 2 of them tight, so I figured, yeah, I break them up. Thats a better idea than keeping the packed ones as cakes right?


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: EuphoricDisaster]
    #3356436 - 11/13/04 06:01 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)



pic1=cake pic2=casing


Good news and bad news.

Bad news: There looks like theres some slight blueing/greening going on. Cant really see in the pic but its there...what can I do about this? Would it be safe to use a sterilized tool to pluck it all off? And it looks like theres some cobwebbing on top as well :frown:

Bad news#2:I also have a mini casing sitting next to the cake...Either its cobweb or really really light loose myc :frown: Again you cant see it in the pic much.

Good news: 11 pins on the cake!!!!! I think its because I started waking up earlier so I could take my jars out of the dark and put them in the morning light...so now there getting more hours of natural light.

Dang, I really hope this cake and casing come through fine.

Oh and about the packing of the jars...when I packed the substrate I didnt pack it down at all :smile: I kinda scooped globs of sub and dumped it the jars, shook it a bit so it would settle evenly but thats about it.

SAM! this greening is scaring me! help!


Edited by psychedelicatessen (11/13/04 06:16 PM)


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: EuphoricDisaster]
    #3357547 - 11/13/04 11:08 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

EuphoricDisaster said:
what I mean is, I already packed 2 of them tight, so I figured, yeah, I break them up. Thats a better idea than keeping the packed ones as cakes right?




Either way its better to break them up and case them then to keep them as cakes.


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3357613 - 11/13/04 11:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Blueing is natural bruising from lack of moisture.


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: psychedelicatessen]
    #3357636 - 11/13/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I have a question, for anyone who can answer it. My cakes look nothing like that. My cakes are completely white. The cake posted here looks half colonized. Am I wrong? Now when I say white, I mean WHITE. No other color and no sign whatsoever that it was ever brf and verm. Just pure white mycelium. Did I do something wrong?


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #3357729 - 11/13/04 11:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I dunk and rolled mine, and put a thicker layer of verm on top. Weird cuz thats where 70% of the pins are growing.


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: psychedelicatessen]
    #3357740 - 11/13/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

My cakes look like his, too... it's from dunking/rolling/double end casing.


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: discman1]
    #3357797 - 11/14/04 12:10 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Oh..
I didn't do the dunk and roll thing. I was to afraid of damaging the cakes. I'm not interested in higher yeilds. I'm actually just doing this for one specific reason(I only plan to trip once)

As for the left overs, they will be disposed of. I just wanted the grow experience. Isn't that why you do the dunk and roll? Higher yields?


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #3357910 - 11/14/04 12:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yep thats why.


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Re: My first pin! (pic) [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3358433 - 11/14/04 03:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

So what about the cobweb stuff on my casing(2ndpic). Am I going to have to trash it? Will keeping it in there affect my other cake?


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