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2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?)
    #3353862 - 11/13/04 12:37 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

I am about to finish up this 1st flush, and I have a few questions.
(Note: 0 contams.)

What do I do w/ my perlite, that has spores on it? Do I clean it out w/ peroxide? Or just place new perlite down?

How long do I dunk my cakes for? 12 hours again? I'm assuming roll them again?

Do pins take as long the 2nd time as the 1st time?

This little pins that are brand new, not old and still small like aborts, do I pick them too when I flush, or are they part of the secound flush?

Also I'm drying these babies on a fan w/ a screen covered, it seems to take like 16 hours to get dry, my question is, do you think I'm losing much potencey?

I know these are a lot of questions, thank you!


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Re: 2nd flush questions. [Re: thenewuser]
    #3353925 - 11/13/04 12:51 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Oh also after I dry them I store them in a butter tub w/ a paper towl at the bottem in case.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. *DELETED* [Re: thenewuser]
    #3353965 - 11/13/04 01:00 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: 2nd flush questions. [Re: RRhoads]
    #3353978 - 11/13/04 01:01 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Thanks, and the other questions, also am I drying them right? :smile:


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3354901 - 11/13/04 10:26 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Bump. :smile:


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3354910 - 11/13/04 10:31 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

I agree, desiccant is the way to go. It will take about the same time, but they will be much dryer.

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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3354914 - 11/13/04 10:33 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Quote:

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What do I do w/ my perlite, that has spores on it? Do I clean it out w/ peroxide? Or just place new perlite down?
- Either or. The spores arent gonna germinate in h202 water.

How long do I dunk my cakes for? 12 hours again? I'm assuming roll them again?
-12hours in fridge and re-rolling im not sure.

Do pins take as long the 2nd time as the 1st time?
-Sometimes, but expect quicker.

This little pins that are brand new, not old and still small like aborts, do I pick them too when I flush, or are they part of the secound flush?
-leave em as they will grow for the 2nd flush

Also I'm drying these babies on a fan w/ a screen covered, it seems to take like 16 hours to get dry, my question is, do you think I'm losing much potencey?
-your not losing anything. you should be getting them cracker dry--not bendable at all.






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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: call_me_kido]
    #3354916 - 11/13/04 10:33 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Thanks were do I find desiccant?

Also:

How long do I dunk my cakes for? 12 hours again? I'm assuming roll them again?

Do pins take as long the 2nd time as the 1st time?

This little pins that are brand new, not old and still small like aborts, do I pick them too when I flush, or are they part of the secound flush?


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3354920 - 11/13/04 10:35 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

desiccant- home depot/lowes/walgreens <-- in the paint sections and its called DampRid. 4 bucks for a milk cartoon sized thing...

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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: dobinky]
    #3354922 - 11/13/04 10:37 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

oops sorry, I posted while you had posted 1 sec earlier :P

Oh and thank you much, again!


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3354924 - 11/13/04 10:38 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Hrm the stems bend a bit, I guess I should let the dry more :frown:


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3354936 - 11/13/04 10:50 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

ya...you can get em cracker dry with a fan but it takes a few days. Friends usually fan for 24-36 hours then put em in a desiccant chamber and in 24 hours or so they become cracker.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: dobinky]
    #3354939 - 11/13/04 10:54 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

This just means my flush was even smaller heh. But you know what 25 wet g's of these shrooms, hit me harder than 3.5 dry g's of any shrooms I've purchased, so I'm not to sad about it


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3355027 - 11/13/04 11:41 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

What if I do this, after they get "bendable" dry, and the cap is cracker dry, I stick it in my tubberware storage thing, however I do this to my tubberware:

--------- shrooms
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--------- Damprid

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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3355121 - 11/13/04 12:12 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

yep.....you should use foil...not paper towel cause it gets wet....poke holes in the foil......


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: dobinky]
    #3355146 - 11/13/04 12:17 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Ok and I will just store them in there,. :smile: Thanks man.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3355150 - 11/13/04 12:18 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

no prob...


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: dobinky]
    #3355365 - 11/13/04 01:26 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Well I checked home depot, walmart and lowes and no damp rid, or anything like it, they all said, they all stopped carrying it about 1.5years ago


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3355960 - 11/13/04 03:58 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Well I did this now for storing them, when they get cracker dry on top and a little bendy stems...

tubberware

-------shrooms
------- Alum Foil w/ some holes
------- papertowl


It's the best i can do right now :frown:


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3355994 - 11/13/04 04:06 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

TRy Meijers fro Damprid. its where i bought mine


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: alisia]
    #3356004 - 11/13/04 04:08 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

We don't have one of those, those 3 are the hardware type places we have. But thanks.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3356224 - 11/13/04 05:00 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

I like silica gel for drying. They are little bead like things that you should be able to find in a craft store or walmart. Silica gel is used for drying flowers and such. It's about $6-7 for a small jug of the stuff and can be reused pry hundreds of times. GL


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: pshawny]
    #3357508 - 11/13/04 10:59 PM (17 years, 28 days ago)

Search for desiccants (spelled like that) at google..you can find some different kinds that you can get delivered for pretty cheap.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3357641 - 11/13/04 11:33 PM (17 years, 28 days ago)

Well, honestly, if they are going to get eatin in a week or 3, does it matter that much, if they still bend?


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3357860 - 11/14/04 12:31 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

Yes, it matters alot. Not only will you not be able to get a correct dose because you dont know how much water is in there (a gram will be anywhere from 1.1-2 grams when "slightly bendy" so you could eat as little as half as what you weigh out in dry weight) but they can certainly not only absorb more moisture but with that moisture alone rot. It's very important to get your shrooms cracker dry if your going to dry them or if your going to store them for more then a week.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3357909 - 11/14/04 12:48 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

Okay, I put them all back on the fan. so the stems should break off like a cracker when I apply pressure?


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3357949 - 11/14/04 01:03 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

Ok I put them all back in my fan/chamber contraption, I'll leave them in there until wensday.

I'm assuming over drying them will not hurt them.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3357963 - 11/14/04 01:08 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

Overdrying without heat definatly wont hurt them..that will probably be the best way to store them..the fan may not get them cracker dry (only will if you have a low ambiant rh) but it will get them as dry as possible without desiccants. A fan would also keep them from rotting for a while. Those silca packets are often found in food and clothing too by the way..I know Sam gets his that way and my storage containers all have silica packets from when I worked at a clothing company taking all the ones that came in the leather jackets.

The stems shouldnt bend at all and should snap easily. The whole thing should crush between your fingers the way a cracker would.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3358026 - 11/14/04 01:30 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

okay I can't get ahold of any desiccants anyway, the rh is like 40% in the room. I'm really not sure what to do here, I don't want to mess up the doses and I don't want to get sick from rot, fan drying is the best I can do as of right now.

Thanks for helping me btw, next dose I'm just going to take 4g's of these. If 2 hours later and I'm not feeling it, I'll take more. I'll go to lowes and look for silca.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3358030 - 11/14/04 01:33 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

many days on fan will get em cracker dry....i always read about people getting cracker dry in 2-3 days or so, wtf?? afoaf always takes 4-6days...


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: dobinky]
    #3358228 - 11/14/04 02:17 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

silica is usualy found at craft stores(eg. Micheals), tell them you're drying flowers and you need a desicant, i'm sure they'll have something. :o


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3358274 - 11/14/04 02:23 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

Thank you very much. After Wen. I'll make my storage tupperware look like this:

----------shrooms
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Thanks for all the help guys.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3358278 - 11/14/04 02:25 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: dobinky]
    #3358368 - 11/14/04 02:48 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

The dryer the longer they last (1 year i think??), but after awhile they eventuall gather moisture, Me? i'm grinding mine up and putting them in pill capsules!!! GL


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3358404 - 11/14/04 02:59 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

they only need to last a week or 3 max. I plan on doing a 4g dose monday after next, so we will see how the drying worked out.


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Re: 2nd flush questions. (Also am I drying these right?) [Re: thenewuser]
    #3359090 - 11/14/04 09:56 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

they dont need to be cracker dry if youre only keeping them for 3 weeks. Get em close, but for that time period damprid should not be needed, even if your RH is %40 (which is very dry, btw). Put a fan blowing directly on them in a dark closet. Get a small space heater to raise the closet temp to around 80 as this will lower the humidity and speed up the drying prcess. If this is done you will get them almost cracker in a couple days.


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