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OfflineMachmood
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RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING
    #3353213 - 11/12/04 08:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

jUST READ A GREAT ARTICLE ON RYE SENT TO ME BYE MAGASH, SEEMS A BIT MORE INVOLVED ND MORE ROOM FOR ERROR THEN JUST CASING UR CAKES, IS THE YIELD SO MUCH GREATER OR JUST STICK WITH CAKES CASINGS( DO CASINGS REALLY YIELD MORE THEN CAKES?


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Re: RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING [Re: Machmood]
    #3353219 - 11/12/04 08:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Chill with the CAPS~
If your not experienced i'd start with cakes... If you've got a Pressure Cooker and wann give rye a try go for it. Cakes are easier for a beginer imo...
Due both if you like and draw your own conclusion :beer:


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Re: RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #3353421 - 11/12/04 10:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

u might want to put a link to the article?


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Re: RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING [Re: 4hodmt]
    #3353774 - 11/13/04 12:06 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Cakes have a larger safety margins. And an easy formula to use where as rye water content would still be considered eyeballing.

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Re: RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING [Re: Sam1912]
    #3353918 - 11/13/04 12:48 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

casing can produce more, but its not as easy, and i've seen some cakes that put most casings to shame. *points to the above poster*


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Re: RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3355153 - 11/13/04 12:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I've actually had better luck with popcorn than I did the cakes. I followed the teks to a T and the cakes just didn't do too hot. Plus, the grain colonized in about a third of the time. I say spent a couple of bucks on a PC and go with grains.


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Re: RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #3355189 - 11/13/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

A substrate of equal volume will always give you better returns with a correctly made casing vs cake alone.

Dunking and rolling a cake is essentially the same thing, but lacks the surface area of a well made casing.

Surface area + Water content = Yeild Volume.

Simple as that.

Generally casings are made of grains, and since grains dont make very good cakes, it is only common sense you would case them.

Its just one more step, but there is no middle ground when contamination is concerned. If that one step leads to contamination, it was one step too many for an inexperienced grower.

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Re: RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING [Re: Machmood]
    #3356572 - 11/13/04 06:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The yields in that Rye post seem Exagerated to me.
18-28 gram dry per flush from 325 grams dry of ryegrain. Thats 54-84 grams dry from 325 grams of Rye grain dry.

Average yield for 125 grams rye is 10 gram dry total. That equates to 26 grams dry per 325 grams rye grain average. Even doubling the average to 52 grams dry per 325 grams ryegrain dry, falls short of the yields in the post.

Trays like that should be averaging 7-10 grams dry per flush, and yielding 21-30grams dry TOTAL YIELD OVER THREE FLUSHES. AVERAGE!

Those are quart jars in the pictures and 8 cup gladware trays correct? Even with the optimal environmnet, that seems like a very good return per substrate weight invested.


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Re: RYE CASINGS VS CAKE CASING [Re: lesstutrey]
    #3357567 - 11/13/04 11:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

lesstutrey said:
casing can produce more, but its not as easy, and i've seen some cakes that put most casings to shame. *points to the above poster*




Thats the poster having optimal conditions though. His casings put most casings to shame as well.


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