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What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined.
    #3352742 - 11/12/04 04:36 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Swami is a bit of a controversial subject around these parts... I just wanted to go ahead and state some very positive influences that Swami's controversial approach has triggered within me.

I'm much less likely to jump to judgement of someone's statements. Since being exposed to what I've often assumed to be a form of subtle antagonism, I've grown to look past my gut reaction to peoples' posts. Instead of answering what I "think" somoene "might" have been implying, I simply answer the question directly.

By playing the role that he has played, he's effectively taught me to be yielding. Whether or not that was his intention is hardly a concern to me... what matters is that I've learned to be like water.

As for my mention of Gomp... I mention Gomp because his very literal and prominent examples of this type of yielding have been very influential to my own views on what constitutes valid argument. By having several conversations with him in which I could not so much as converse on a subject with him, he effectively showed me how one can be yielding in even the most simple of situations.

While I don't necessarily think that one SHOULD act like this at all times, I've learned to take what he examplifies and apply it liberally, with a logical approach to when I need to and when I do not need to yield.

Thanks goes to both of you. :heart: :heart:

Perhaps others here have not come to grips with the fact that Swami's approach to things (as controversial as it may be) has actually helped them. It's hard to admit this kind of thing... took me a damn long while, infact.

But if you feel a little relation.. if you feel like maybe some of what I'm saying is sticking to you... feel free to speak up. Swami's approach draws a lot of fire upon himself... which, whether intentional or not, is a selfless action.

Again, I applaud both of you for changing the way I view people who meet certain criteria that I once would have stereotyped into specific groups as a means of writing off.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3352759 - 11/12/04 04:39 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think either of them are necessarily nazis like you implied.


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: deff]
    #3352767 - 11/12/04 04:40 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Hahahaha...

Perhaps a little winky face or a grin at the end of that statement would help to clarify whether or not you were being serious.

I don't think you were. :smile:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3352782 - 11/12/04 04:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

So, your basing this response on your connotation of my post, and not the literal meaning?

I kid :P


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: deff]
    #3352785 - 11/12/04 04:44 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Like I said, I will apply Gomp's approach only when I deem it appropriate. :smile:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3352795 - 11/12/04 04:45 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

So what you are saying is that Swami + Gomp = Swamp?


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3352798 - 11/12/04 04:46 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Nice save :laugh: :thumbup:

I'll have to try harder next time >:)


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3352805 - 11/12/04 04:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

:heart:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: deff]
    #3352806 - 11/12/04 04:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

There is a teacher and a student in all of us, and a time to be one or the other. Thats what I believe. Seems like you've gained some good insight about yourself and others from these two. Thats what a collective consciousness is all about.


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3352822 - 11/12/04 04:52 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

What I have learned from Jacques (other than those cool National Geographic specials) is to be even MORE abrasive than ever as he is now hip to my tactics and they don't work on him anymore.  :crazy2:


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Swami]
    #3352823 - 11/12/04 04:52 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
So what you are saying is that Swami + Gomp = Swamp?



Well, that's not exactly what I was trying to say, but you certainly drew an interesting side-note out of it!  :thumbup:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Swami]
    #3352826 - 11/12/04 04:53 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
What I have learned from Jacques (other than those cool National Geographic specials) is to be even MORE abrasive than ever as he is now hip to my tactics and they don't work on him anymore.  :crazy2:



Go for it.. 'twil keep me on my toes, so to speak.  :crazy2:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Gomp]
    #3352833 - 11/12/04 04:55 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I think Gomp ACTUALLY is a three-year old child prodigy/master and that is his current photo in the avatar. He has NO book of quotes; he just makes them up from his enlightened perspective to fit the circumstances.


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Swami]
    #3352841 - 11/12/04 04:57 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I definitely agree about the quotes. (and what an ingenious approach it is, I might add..)

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3352972 - 11/12/04 05:23 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

"combine ingenious, get nothing"
-unknown :P

hehe  :heart: :sun:


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: deff]
    #3353022 - 11/12/04 05:38 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with deff, not because I understood what he meant - but because he was funny.

Everyone knows, fun rules...


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: slaphappy]
    #3353041 - 11/12/04 05:44 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, fun does rule!  :stoned: :mushroom2: :rocket: :pill: :bong: :stash: :spliff: :eyemouth: :loveeyes: :nut: :beer: :cheers:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3355034 - 11/13/04 09:44 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Jacques Awakens. Now the initiation may begin.

Swami, prepare the formless holdiay cookies, so Jacques may partake in their scrumptious state of being. :lol:

Gomp, bust out the Julebrus, so that we may all celebrate! (know of any way I would be able to have some shipped to the States through mail or internet order, by the way?)

Another form poked and prodded until he awakens. :grin:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3355047 - 11/13/04 09:47 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

What would of you learnt if Swami infused with Gomp vice versa?

Into a human form.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Tag_Number]
    #3355057 - 11/13/04 09:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Swami and Gomp fought each other accidentally. Then decided to team up and fight evil.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Tag_Number]
    #3355154 - 11/13/04 10:18 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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What would of you learnt if Swami infused with Gomp vice versa?

Into a human form.



I'm sorry, I can't respond because I do not understand your question.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3355194 - 11/13/04 10:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

If Swami and Gomp became the same person or body.

Melded together into a lesson teaching person called Goami or Swomp.

Understand now?

(this is a joke)

Edited by Tag_Number (11/17/04 06:16 PM)

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Tag_Number]
    #3355244 - 11/13/04 10:48 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I understand the concept you're conveying--I just don't understand how you expect me to propose what I "would have" learned from such a being if such a being existed because, a.) the creature does not exist, and b.) unless a. was false, and the creature did exist, I certainly could not know anything of it's nature or what it would attempt to teach me; much less what I would have learned from it.

This is akin to asking, "If you met an alien, what would you learn from it?"

I can hardly know. You'd have a much better chance asking the alien instead of me.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3355248 - 11/13/04 10:49 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Enough bickering... Julebrus for all! :grin:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3355249 - 11/13/04 10:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Who's bickering?

I'm just explaining why I can't answer his question.

What the fuck is Julebrus? :P

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3355264 - 11/13/04 10:53 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't say anyone was bickering, you assume too much.

The question is, what isn't Julebrus?! :lol:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3355268 - 11/13/04 10:54 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Ah, but no assumptions were made.

I simply posed a simple question: "Who's bickering?"

Show me the assumption. :smile:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3355272 - 11/13/04 10:56 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Show me the assumption. :smile:



*points to a moving object in the sky*

I'll allow Gomp to field the question as to what Julebrus is. :grin:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3355278 - 11/13/04 10:58 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Is it a helicopter or god?

You decide!  :eek:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3355284 - 11/13/04 11:00 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

hehe, julebrus could be the same as r?dbrus! don't tell me you do not know what r?dbrus is also? :P
directly translated, it could be something like red soda? :P 
is it typical Norwegian? julebrus that is,..? :grin:


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Gomp]
    #3355327 - 11/13/04 11:13 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed, red soda. :wink: Julebrus is like r?dbrus except it is sold specifically for Christmas.. otherwise it is basically a drink for kids. Right?

From what I understand, julebrus is exclusively Norwegian, or at least exclusively Scandanavian... All I know is I drank a hell of a lot of it when I was in Norway, I even hoarded it. Gomp, if you have some time, you should do some snooping around the Norsk websites and see if you can find a julebrus producer that will ship to the States. :wink: 'Course, there is one specific brand that I feel is the best... :grin:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3355434 - 11/13/04 11:43 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)



hehe what brand you like? i asked a few if the could ship any :P how much you thinking of? :P


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Gomp]
    #3355602 - 11/13/04 12:19 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I don't remember the name of the brand exactly, but if I saw the label, I know I would recognize it (I was doing some of my own searching, and the name "Arendals" seems familiar, it might be that). I'd be interested in any kind that I could get shipped here to the States, really. As far as how much I was thinking of.... I don't know if they require minimum orders or not, and, of course, international shipping is going to be steep... but I'd be willing to pay up to around 700 kr or so on the actual order itself, as long as I got my money's worth....

:grin: Tusen takk, man, this is awesome. :thumbup: When I was hoarding about ten liters of it after Christmas, the last one I had was opened the night I had some mushrooms arrive mysteriously in the mail (from Canada, I think :lol:).  :mushroom2:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3355703 - 11/13/04 12:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, I know the two different kinds I have had were Ringnes and Arendals, and I think Arendals was the better of the two... :grin:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3356271 - 11/13/04 03:15 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I can never figure out what Gomp is trying to say. From what I can tell he just restates everything and adds a question mark at the end.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: vessel]
    #3356478 - 11/13/04 04:09 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

When gomp does that, its his way of saying, are you so sure about what you just said and how can you be so sure. He gets you thinking.

It's not so much about what he is trying to say as much as how he gets you to think about what you are saying in a new light-a place of uncertainty, the ever changing moment in the here and now.


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: vessel]
    #3356497 - 11/13/04 04:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed.. to further elaborate on Jiggy's comments about Gomp:

He essentially takes whatever conversation you're TRYING to have with him, and brings to light the futility of said conversation. He steers you into "the now" (the moment we are always experiencing) by essentially "stumping" whatever statement you've made.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3356575 - 11/13/04 04:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I am getting a telepathic message that his first name is Forrest...  :grin:


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Swami]
    #3356614 - 11/13/04 04:40 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

My telepathic message says its Furrest.


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: chunder]
    #3356626 - 11/13/04 04:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

ROFL.. you guys are too clever. ;P

I award Swami and Chunder each 1 point!  :syringe:  :syringe:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3357204 - 11/13/04 07:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

"By playing the role that he has played, he's effectively taught me to be yielding. Whether or not that was his intention is hardly a concern to me... what matters is that I've learned to be like water."

straight up  :thumbup:  at his  old  age  I'm sure the geezer has something to offer us :wink:

I wonder what he does for a living with his awesome linguisitic skills.  :grin:

I think gomp is some crazy norway dude who uses crazy question marks as necessary pauses.  :grin:


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: kaiowas]
    #3358007 - 11/13/04 11:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3359087 - 11/14/04 07:55 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Ought to be a lawyer.. :grin:

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3359943 - 11/14/04 12:49 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

"necessaries are unavoidabl to necessity, but necessity is not unavoidabl as necessaries"
-unkonwn :P

you make it? :wink:


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: kaiowas]
    #3360032 - 11/14/04 01:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

straight up at his old age I'm sure the geezer has something to offer us

*Cough cough* I've fallen and I can't get up. (Props to Freak) Help me! Help me! *gasp* Everything is getting dark...


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Swami]
    #3360070 - 11/14/04 01:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously though Swami, now I am curious... do you have a carreer that allows you to exercise your linguistic abilities as a means of profit? Or do you just do this kind of thing in your spare time for fun?

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3360080 - 11/14/04 01:32 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I play poker online for $$$ and type between hands. Ah, the good life... :muppet:


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3360104 - 11/14/04 01:40 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

he was an engineer i believe


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Swami]
    #3360109 - 11/14/04 01:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

You can make enough money to live off of just by playing poker online?

I'm impressed, man. Seriously.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3360126 - 11/14/04 01:44 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Poker AND backgammon.

Rationality and logic supercedes gut feel and intuition.


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Swami]
    #3360565 - 11/14/04 03:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

could we make it jim jones brand jelubrus for swami and gomp ill pay.

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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: kbilly]
    #3360587 - 11/14/04 03:53 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Make it Ken Kesey brand Kool Aid and I'll pay. :tripping:


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Re: What I've learned from Swami and Gomp combined. [Re: Swami]
    #3360654 - 11/14/04 04:05 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
straight up at his old age I'm sure the geezer has something to offer us

*Cough cough* I've fallen and I can't get up. (Props to Freak) Help me! Help me! *gasp* Everything is getting dark...



ah so you admit that you WERE wrong Swamster! And more importantly you admit it. GR8 stuff man, i'll be down for that drink ASAP :wink:


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