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Canada's involvement in the Vietnam War
    #3345632 - 11/11/04 08:23 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Read about Canada's involvement in the Vietnam War. Many Americans believe that Canada played not part in the Vietnam War; nothing could be further from the truth
Many Americans believe that Canada played no part in the Vietnam War. Nothing could be further from the truth. Though the Canadian government tried its best to remain neutral, Canadians themselves became involved. It is believed that Canadian enlistment in the US Army during the Vietnam era far surpassed the 30,000 who fled as draft dodgers to Canada.


Canadians serving in the US military is nothing new. This occurred as far back as the Civil War. Forty Canadians have won America?s highest military award ? the Medal of Honor.


When the US became involved in war with Vietnam, many Canadian men joined the US Armed Forces or allowed themselves to be drafted. Canadian Forces were being cut back and Vietnam allowed Canadian youth to join the US military where they would be taught skills that were not available in their own country. Helicopter flying and mechanics was the goal of many young Canadian men. Another reason to join was the fight against communism and still others joined for adventure or personal reasons.


Larry Semeniuk of Windsor, Ontario, joined the US Army in January 1967. In December, he was deployed as a paratrooper of Company B, 3rd Battalion, 187th regiment, 101st Airborne Division to Vietnam. In January 1968, Semeniuk saved the life of an officer at the risk of his own. A few days later, he was killed in action. He was awarded the Silver Star posthumously.


Gary Butt was born May 9, 1951 in Montreal, Quebec. He enlisted in the US military at Plattsburg, New York in 1968. Since Butt had superior skills in marksmanship, the US Army gave him the position of rifleman with the 173rd Airborne Brigade. Butt volunteered for duty in Vietnam and served from July 1970, to April 1971. He was killed on April 3rd. At the time of his death, Butt held the position of sergeant with the 4th Battalion, 503rd Infantry, 173rd Airborne Brigade.


Many other Canadians served in Vietnam and like Vietnam vets in the US, returned home to despicable treatment. This was especially noticeable in Toronto and Vancouver where US draft dodgers had settled. These large cities were often the sites of anti-war hostility.


There were no Veterans Administration Centers in Canada to assist the returning men or the families of those who had died in Vietnam. The Royal Canadian Legion did not welcome these men as they did men from other wars. This began to change with the completion of the Vietnam Veteran?s Memorial in Washington, DC.


Canadian Vietnam Veterans began to form their own organizations in 1986. There are now groups in most major Canadian cities but it is a loose coalition. Canada also has six men who are not accounted for. They are listed as MIA?s, though it is believed that some of these men are POW?s.


For almost thirty years, Canadian Vietnam Veterans fought to have a memorial dedicated to those who never returned from the jungles of a country half way around the world. They raised money and a portable wall, much like The Wall in Washington. The Vets traveled across the country educating their fellow countrymen on the Vietnam War. The horrors endured by these men where beyond imagination.


Finally, the Canadian government listened to its Vietnam Vets. In 1995, the North Wall found a permanent home in Windsor, Ontario. It is a great tribute to those Canadians who served and sacrificed all for what they believed in.


The North Wall is a beautiful memorial. If you are in the area, be sure to view the names on the North Wall and spend a moment remembering those whom never returned.


http://dede.essortment.com/canadasvietnam_rgwv.htm


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Re: Canada's involvement in the Vietnam War [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3345640 - 11/11/04 08:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Canada's involvement in the Vietnam War [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3345645 - 11/11/04 08:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Canada's official position is that it's not in the business of sending arms to dangerous areas. But the truth is, Canadian manufacturers and the Canadian government are involved in filling American defence contracts for shipment to Vietnam. Sam Noumoff of Project Antiwar says that Canadian manufacturers often play dumb about the final destination of certain materials, but in many cases they are well aware of where products are being sent. The CBC's As It Happens talks to Mr. Noumoff about the situation.


? Some of the many Canadian-manufactured products destined for Vietnam included: ammunition, aircraft engines, gun sights, grenades, boots, green berets, napalm, TNT, rye whiskey, Agent Orange, generators and passenger vehicles, to name just a few.
? While the sale of these items is by no means illegal, many believed it was morally wrong to profit from sales of war materials. NDP leader Tommy Douglas called it "blood money."


? In 1958 Canada and the United States signed a Defence Production Sharing Agreement. Between 1965 and 1973, industry in Canada supplied $2.47 billion worth of war material to the United States.
? The Canadian Commercial Corporation (CCC) that is mentioned in this clip is a crown corporation that acts as an intermediary for Canadian businesses trying to secure contracts with the U.S. Department of Defence. In an agreement with the U.S. military, all export sales over $100,000 US from Canadian companies are contracted exclusively through CCC.



http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-1413-9128&wm6=1


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Re: Canada's involvement in the Vietnam War [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3345737 - 11/11/04 09:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Oh my god! Are we next?

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Re: Canada's involvement in the Vietnam War [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3347171 - 11/11/04 04:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

anyone say canada was perfect? nope, far from it. ill be the first one to rag on canada cause we do some really stupid shit. but nothing in comparison. plus we need to make as much money of the blood thristies to teh south, as tehy jsut steal it in other areas (opinion). take it when its there so we have some when its taken back.


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Re: Canada's involvement in the Vietnam War [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3347335 - 11/11/04 05:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

"Though the Canadian government tried its best to remain neutral, Canadians themselves became involved."

Kind of voids the title, doesn't it? And only in the third sentence! A handful of individual Canadians who join the US army doesn't mean the country as a whole supports the US army or its ventures in Vietnam.

"many Canadian men joined the US Armed Forces or allowed themselves to be drafted."

Many Canadian men also had a little thing called dual citizenship during the war. As American Citizens they were just as eligable for the draft as anyone else actually living in the US. In fact I know men my father's age who lived in Canada at the time and were drafted (though they stayed here instead of going). They couldn't go back to the US until the amnesty.

Very weak, great_satan. :smirk:


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