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InvisibleMoonshoe
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    #3339440 - 11/10/04 12:29 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

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Re: swami [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3339477 - 11/10/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Heh. Someone is summoning the great debunking prowess of Swami. I figure it could be anything...partial hallucination and/or a dream and/or wishful thinking? Whatever it is, if you enjoy it, then keep doing it.


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Re: swami [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3339478 - 11/10/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Why must one experience try to cancel another?

All we have are experiences.

If you experienced it...

It is as real as

anything

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Re: swami [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3339487 - 11/10/04 12:42 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

I laughed at that unpleasantly electrocuted comment. Thast the astral body and I hate that feeling sooooooo much. the astral body is clumbsy and awkard too and prone to paralysis.

I've only experienced astral travel by mistake a handful of time and some wild stories to go with a few too.

Cruising with the etheric body rocks, no electric shock wierd feeling and its fast and proficient and can't freeze up on ya.

I keep asking people if they ever get that wierd electric shock feeling and you are the first to mention it.

WTF is that all about. It's nasty. LOL I remember once, my hubby and I were talking about astral travel and he said his dad use to tell him about it, but that he never did himself. That night while asleep, bloop, I popped out and my hubby was there holding my hand smiling at me. I went to high five him for helping me to pull it off and we got that electric shock crap feeling when we smacked hands. I've had it in others too.

What I want to know is why when you cruise around, things don't look exactly as they do. Once, in the etheric and lucid, I went flying to my favorite beach in St. Thomas just to hang there. The roofs on the condos I used to live in were a different color and I noticed some new brown wood shutters put up at the beach bar I use to work at that were not there when I left the island. A month later, a friend sent me some photos of her vaca there and I'll be damned. There were the brown shutters in the photo. They put them up after the storm after I left.

The roofs never changed. So in way, I was actually there to have seen the shutters, but why were the roof colors different then in real life?

So, WTF? Science shmiance, just have fun with it.


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Re: swami [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3339528 - 11/10/04 01:32 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

astral and etheric bodies are the same....there is no diff...


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Re: swami [Re: spudamore]
    #3339630 - 11/10/04 02:18 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

spudamore said:
astral and etheric bodies are the same....there is no diff...




Uh oh... a rift expectedly divides the esoteric community.
How will it end?
Tune in next week for the exciting conclusion!


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Re: swami [Re: Sclorch]
    #3339673 - 11/10/04 02:30 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Your astral body is an etheric presence.


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Re: swami [Re: Sclorch]
    #3339678 - 11/10/04 02:31 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Everyone knows that the ethereal body vibrates at a much higher frequency than the denser astral body.  :rolleyes:


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Re: swami [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3339699 - 11/10/04 02:33 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

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Moonshoe said:
question: do you believe me when i say




Why does his/our opinion matter? You don't need to validate yourself through his/our words.


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Re: swami [Re: blink]
    #3339711 - 11/10/04 02:36 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Ahem, my role in this lifetime is to be the final arbiter. I fulfill a need.


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Re: swami [Re: Swami]
    #3339747 - 11/10/04 02:43 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Hahaha, every post i read of yours swami, makes me laugh out loud! Your first post in this thread is great thinking on your part, nice way to beat around the bush (only kidding) :wink:


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Re: swami [Re: DMTelepath]
    #3341340 - 11/10/04 01:51 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

i dont need him or anyone to validate my experience, that wasnt the point. and im not trying to bait or anything here.

Im simply wondering how people who are firmly skeptical of all new agey nonsense respond to someone like me. I would be found eminently sane by any modern tests. I am an honour roll student, active, athletic, healthy, etc...

I have a healthy normal family life, etc etc

so whence comes this wierd experience of out of body movement?

how does a hardcore skeptic respond to people like this? people who by all other standards are sane but claim to have experiences that science would call impossible?

im wondering what explanation you could offer? what is the nature of this experience if it does happen or if it doesnt, do you have any theories on why i am lieing or how i became so deluded?

honestly id like to know, and id apreciate a response. SWAMI! SWAMI!

i am talking to YOU. do you have a theory for what causes this stuff? or why i make it up, if that is your other explanation?

its such a large body of people having these experiences, how can you dismiss them? or how do you explain them?


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Re: swami [Re: Swami]
    #3341361 - 11/10/04 01:57 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

I will certainly hand it to you that you are the center of attention in S&P.


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Re: swami [Re: spudamore]
    #3341564 - 11/10/04 02:52 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

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astral and etheric bodies are the same....there is no diff...




A lot of people lump the two subtle bodies together.

astral- etheric; both subtle bodies and planes of consciousness

barge- scaraab; both boats

construction truck- porche; both moter vehicles

ice cream - mousse; both frozen desserts

being punched- being caressed; both forms of human contact

electrical field- non polar magnetic field; both energy fields

Hell, science can't even prove any subtle energy body exists, like I can prove the differences between the two, you have to experience them for yourself.

If you know when you're in the astral or how to get in it, from there just intend to pull out into the etheric and it should happen automatically.


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Re: swami [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3341567 - 11/10/04 02:55 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

well sense swami isnt replying, why dont we fill the time by getting jiggy with it to explain the differances between those subtle bodies?
please?


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Re: swami [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3341655 - 11/10/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

SENSORY MISMATCH

Olaf Blanke, a neurologist at the Geneva University Hospital in Switzerland, made the discovery while performing surgery on a 43-year-old woman for epilepsy, a brain disorder that causes seizures. He stimulated different regions of the woman's brain with electrodes, devices that transmit electric charges.

Stimulating the right angular gyrus, a small region in the brain's right hemisphere, triggered out-of-body experiences. First the patient said she felt she was "sinking into the bed" or "falling from a height." Then her legs and arms seemed to shorten or fly up toward her face, even though, they weren't actually moving.

When Blanke turned up the electric current, the woman reported leaving her body and floating near the ceiling. She told doctors, "I see myself lying in bed, from above, but I only see my legs and lower trunk." Subsequent zaps with the electrodes replicated the effect.

The angular gyrus is a complex region of the brain. It has several functions, one of which is body and space awareness. It coordinates information from the eyes with information from the somatosensory system. The somatosensory system tells the brain where the body is in space. For example, it enables you to touch your finger to your nose when your eyes are shut.

Blanke believes that an out-of-body experience occurs when the angular gyrus fails to process visual and somatosensory information properly. That failure fools people into seeing themselves in a place where they are not--outside the body.


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Re: swami [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3341714 - 11/10/04 03:20 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Well, I'll describe what I know to help others identify where the hell they are when out and about in the realms of consciouness.

It's my understanding that the astral body is our polarised electrical body and the astral plane is an electrical and polarised field of consciousness. That static crackling popping sound a lot of people hear in it is related to the electrical field. BTW, we burn up a lot of body fluid to run these things and get dehydrated fast. Drink tons of water before astral travel and bed time. The water in your body is needed for a conduit.

The astral body is cumbersome and awkward to manuever "sometimes". It's prone to paralysis and can experience fear and negativity in general. You know those dreams where a monster is chasing you and you can't run fast? Thats the astral realm.

When in the etheric actually spelled aetheric, WOWWWWWWWWW you are freeeeeeeeeeeee. There is no knowing, comprehending or feeling of fear- it doesn't exist there. No paralylis no electrical shocks or static or crackling. You can move faster then light, as fast as thought with mind blowing proficiency and manifestation is instantaneous. 

It's my understanding this realm is magnetic in nature and non polarised. Non polar magnetic fields use push pull vortices and voids and density dispositions to create movement. Science is begging to understand the physics of non polar magnetics better, you can google it.

Anyways, if you can start intending to end up in the aetheric over the astral, your experiences will be much more enjoyable. Happy travels! :kiss:


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Re: swami [Re: spud]
    #3341751 - 11/10/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

I tend to agree that this are inner dimensions of consciousness and that you don't actually go out anywhere, but people who say they can describe stuff in other rooms while going there in the astral, must just be seeing with the third eye from home base.

I read a lot of stuff about being attached to cords as you actually leave your body and cruise around, but "i've never experienced a cord and I don't see stuff here the way it actually is. I think it's all happening in our head in inner dimensions, or sub dimensions of consciousness.


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Re: swami [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3345340 - 11/11/04 05:05 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Lol, its like seeing people argue about how an orange tastes >.<


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