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OfflineRikhead
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mixing mushroom species
    #3338389 - 11/09/04 07:29 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

this has probly been asked be4 wtf.

i want to know wat the fuck wud happen if i mix the same amount of 2 diffrent kind of shrooms


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: Rikhead]
    #3338406 - 11/09/04 07:33 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

they'd compete for nutrients rather than work together


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: derx]
    #3338409 - 11/09/04 07:36 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

I've often heard that response, but I kinda wonder how true it is... If the substrate is already colonized with the respective species, how would they be competing? The nutrients are already allocated..?


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: discman1]
    #3338451 - 11/09/04 07:48 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

Rikhead, is it too much to ask that your question be asked in English?

discman, I'd think they would be competing before full colonization is the point. The area colonized for each species would be lower than normal, and they wouldn't work together as a network producing fruit bodies. So, you'd just have two small colonizations next to each other.

Right?


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3338467 - 11/09/04 07:51 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

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Rikhead, is it too much to ask that your question be asked in English?

discman, I'd think they would be competing before full colonization is the point. The area colonized for each species would be lower than normal, and they wouldn't work together as a network producing fruit bodies. So, you'd just have two small colonizations next to each other.

Right?


Full colonization of the casing layer, yes.

Yeah, that's a better way of putting it. It would be better just to have 2 seperate casings.


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: discman1]
    #3338502 - 11/09/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

I still believe they'd try to compete for nutrients. Just because one organism is getting it's nutrition from the rye it's colonized, why this same organizm try to colonize the others' substrate? Get what I'm saying?


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: derx]
    #3338517 - 11/09/04 08:09 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

I'm not sure.. not entirely clear on how mycelium works in that respect.

If they can't work together, I would think that it's on a first come, first served basis. If the (nutrients) are colonized, they're "blocked" by the mycelium. Nothing else should be able to eat the substrate, unless by killing the mycelium.

Could be wrong, though.


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: discman1]
    #3338544 - 11/09/04 08:16 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

The reason I discredit your hypothesis is because we know for a fact how contams work. Contams are fungi which do indeed have mycelium networks just as our club fungus does. I assume then, cubensis, like contams, will fight other cubensis for nutrients in the same manner.


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: derx]
    #3338565 - 11/09/04 08:21 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

But contams have ways of defeating or overcomming the mycelium's natural defenses and either directly digesting the mycelium or outright killing it, which would leave them access to the nutritious substrate.

Would other strains within the same species be treated as contamination by each mycelium? If so, that would be a bad thing as it would be energy wasted.

If on the other hand,they can coexist together, the main issue being surface area for fruiting, I wouldn't call that "fighting for nutrients", it should be "fighting for surface area" :wink:

Regardless, I do agree that its a bad idea, I'm just not entirely sure how technically accurate the "compete for nutrients" bit is.


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Re: mixing mushroom species [Re: discman1]
    #3338626 - 11/09/04 08:39 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

no dice.

and we cant't rule out the possibility that the mycelliniums will turn cannibilistic and begin to consume each-other, while putting up an unholy evil fruitbody.

...thats just a possibility, though


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