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OfflineRemi
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I see pins!!!
    #3335651 - 11/09/04 02:31 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I've finally noticed a few pins on the couple cakes that have been in my terrarium the longest. its been six days now and I can notice some little babie mushies startin to sprout up. a couple questions though.. are there any special precautions for pinning. I heard to shouldny mist them or they may abort. and also how many mushrooms usually come per flush? I notice a few pins will more come up or this all that'll show.


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Remi]
    #3335720 - 11/09/04 02:57 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Congrats


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3335761 - 11/09/04 03:09 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

congrats. and 6 days isnt' the longest by no stretch of imagination. Well... unless of course it's your first grow... in which case, even 2 days would seem like an eternity.


congrats, again.

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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Sam1912]
    #3335809 - 11/09/04 03:23 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Heh thanks, and yeah it is my first grow. I was surprised though 6 days seems pretty good i aint complaining.


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Remi]
    #3335849 - 11/09/04 03:34 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

what kinda strain r u growing:)


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Brady]
    #3335873 - 11/09/04 03:42 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Cube B+ everything seems to be goin well :laugh:


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Brady]
    #3335876 - 11/09/04 03:44 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

i got my first pins showing too a few days ago :laugh:  there must be about a hundred of them now.

cause for celebration! :laugh:


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: MovingTarget]
    #3335887 - 11/09/04 03:50 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

aww I only see like 3-4 on each cake... :frown:


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Remi]
    #3335914 - 11/09/04 04:02 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Case and you'll see many more pins..

Dont get to exited though...the substrate can only support a certain amount of maturing mushrooms..at a certain point..more pins just means more aborts. Thats the biggest draw back of brazilains. There are litterally 200 pins on a 1 quart casing. There is, if you put all the surface of the casing that wasnt pinning together, probably a space the size of a quarter..They just most abort. DOnt get me wrong..plenty grow to create a thick forest of mushrooms but theres still a hundred aborts to pick every time I do a brazil casing. First flush is usually worse with aborts though..

Well anyway, sidetracked but goodluck!


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3335941 - 11/09/04 04:28 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Yes I think I'm gonna try to case the two jars I havent put in the terrarium yet. It'll give me a nice comparison against the un cased cakes.


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3335950 - 11/09/04 04:34 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

double end case and keep those verm moist. I think cakes have the same potential as the casings.

But for most people, I think it is easier to tap further into that potential with casings. Actually, I think there is a huge difference in yield if you consider same amount of work going into each. And of course, the risk is lower with casings.

I'm still a cake lover, though. Probably because I spend so much more time with them.

Sam


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Sam1912]
    #3335975 - 11/09/04 05:20 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Aborts are potent no?


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: MovingTarget]
    #3336022 - 11/09/04 06:31 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

MovingTarget said:
Aborts are potent no?




Of course they are, just like regular mushrooms. Some say moreso but its only theory.


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3336056 - 11/09/04 07:04 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

theory and experience, Ive heard many people trip heavily off small amounts of aborts. No experience of aborts myself, but it makes sense to me


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: MovingTarget]
    #3336060 - 11/09/04 07:11 AM (12 years, 29 days ago)

shit... I don't even have 1g of aborts, yet...

Small little tiny ones... still collecting those. Too much work for me to find enough of those... probably should store them separately.

Sam


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Sam1912]
    #3336863 - 11/09/04 01:04 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

actually, i believe there has been a scientific test shown that aborts are more potent by weight than full grown mushies, it's not just speculation... but i don't remember where it's at. i'm pretty sure it's in one of the faqs around here...


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3339752 - 11/10/04 02:44 AM (12 years, 29 days ago)

If you only see a couple of pins, that's totally ok. I just harvested my first shrooms, and I only had a couple of pins on each cake. But guess what - they turn into MASSIVE shrooms (close to 30 grams each).  Each cake's nutrients support a somewhat set yield - whether its all in one or two biggies or a bunch of littles.

So, hopefully you'll be very impressed with the outcome. The cake will put all its energy into those few. Just wait and see :smile:


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3340089 - 11/10/04 05:20 AM (12 years, 29 days ago)

Quote:

ZeroArmy27 said:
actually, i believe there has been a scientific test shown that aborts are more potent by weight than full grown mushies, it's not just speculation... but i don't remember where it's at. i'm pretty sure it's in one of the faqs around here...




I have not seen it if so and would gladly admit to being wrong if someone could show it to me but I can't find it. I've seen speculation but no actual tests on percentages of actives in aborts and mature mushrooms of the same casing.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3340103 - 11/10/04 05:23 AM (12 years, 29 days ago)

I've read them in the Teks and Teks only... Probably that's where everyone's getting this. I think in erowid they talk about lack of tests conducted regarding potencies particularly during stages of developement.

I've never eaten less than an 1/8th, so I can't personally atest to higher potency, but soon... I should have about 2g of aborts by christmas. Maybe...

Sam


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Re: I see pins!!! [Re: Sam1912]
    #3340132 - 11/10/04 05:36 AM (12 years, 29 days ago)

Ive dosed myself different doses at fully mature (I let mine go till the cap is flat usually (some strains less) and aborts and never noticed a particularly stronger trip.

Of course most everything is all about your mind and what you think so if you think what you taking (whatever it is) is gonna make you trip harder, it most likly will.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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