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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: z_x_x_z]
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serves her right!
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: veggie]
#3788251 - 02/16/05 06:08 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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And to think the Indo's won't even play fair in their farce of a justice system when they got 1 billion dollars off Australia for the tsunami. Corrupt filth.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: veggie]
#3791264 - 02/17/05 12:41 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Protesters demand Corby's execution February 17, 2005 smh.com.au
Schapelle Corby's furious mother hurled water at protesters who stormed a Bali courtroom today, demanding her daughter's execution.
About 10 protesters from an Indonesian anti-narcotics group, GRANAT, invaded Bali's Denpasar District Court, demanding Corby be put to death for the alleged crime of drug smuggling.
The protest triggered a furious reaction from Corby's mother Rosleigh, who hurled water at the placard-waving group.
"You have already found my daughter guilty and she is innocent," she shouted.
The Gold Coast beauty school student has denied trying to smuggle 4.1kg of cannabis leaf and heads into Bali's Denpasar airport last year, in her unlocked boogie-board bag.
Corby, 27, claims someone must have planted the pillow case-sized stash in her luggage between Brisbane and Denpasar airports, leading to her arrest last October.
At today's hearing, one protester, Nur Azizah, shouted: "There is already one person executed in Bali for 2kg of marijuana. I don't want to see Corby go free for bringing 4.1kg."
Corby's mother shouted back: "Why can't you be saying try and find evidence? No-one seems to be trying to find who put the bloody stuff in the bag. They don't care."
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Her name is Schapelle Corby [Re: veggie]
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I must say, the attitude in this forum in about as absurd is death for an herb! Do I detect some hyprocrites? I do not know Ms. Schapelle Corby.
Guilty or Not? Actually in my opinion that is not the issue, but from the facts I have read I am suspect of 3 potential scenarios of the story:
a) Airport baggage handlers between Brisbane and Bali have some operation in place to smuggle drugs after customs inspections in Brisbane and in Bali the baggage handlers remove prior to customs inspection there. Some how, this package did not get removed and the rightful owner, Ms. Schapelle Corby, of the baggage got stuck with "goods."
b) Other drug smugglers plant to divert from the real haul! Come on, 9lbs of pot isn't not very much! They claim a street value of $80,000 is likely over stated and even if, what is Schapelle going to sell over 4,000 $20 grams? That?s over $8,800 per pound or $550 per once. I doubt Schapelle was selling this especially as she has tested negative for drug use. This does not add up. In California USA, you can grow up to 25lbs or pot legally per person per year whom has a medical prescription.
c) Corby did it, which I highly doubt. If she did knowingly smuggle this product, then she would certainly know the penalty for doing such. Ok then, if you know these facts and you smuggle, you?re going to be professional. Anyone with $20,000 invested in drugs ($20,000 was the amount referred in this post) has a professional operation at some level and would not operate in this way.
As for the absurd, close minded people in this forum, WOW! What rock have you been under? Death of 9lbs of pot? Any pot at that matter ...... Ok I could somewhat understand if it was a real trafficking issue..... Like say a ship full! Employing dozens of people and producing millions of dollars in the black market per load. But this just isn?t the case; she has enough herbs to last 2.5 moderate smokers a year. About 150 ounces is not trafficking by any means. And DEATH, think about it. You a taking a human life, the most precious gift in this world and for an herb grown by God, that?s just dead wrong. Marijuana is not a drug; it is an herb in its natural state. It a medicinal herb that has been used for millions of years and special interests of the pharmaceutical companies and other competing industries has created hysteria over the past century for the economic gains of these select few.
Look at people making money from illegalization of marijuana!
Black Marketeers - Paying off government officials as these our big guys whom don't get caught.
Doctors - Treatment centers are big bucks
Lawyers & Judges - Legal fees, payoffs, kickbacks
Municipalities - Fines, probation fees and slave labor
Private Prisons - A new emerging industry that?s in the billions of dollars annually and growing.
Law Enforcement - Budget increased, more seizures and even more payoffs
Law makers - even more payoffs
Drug & Pharmaceutical companies -
Modern Day Slavery - in many places, prisoners do work no one is willing
Please sign this petition to save Schapelle's life:
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/corby
JOIN THE NETWORK TRYING TO HELP SACVE HER LIFE:
http://www.SchapelleCorby.net
HFS Incorporated< P.O Box 2097 Bondi Junction, Sydney NSW, Australia 2022 Help Free Schapelle [HFS Inc.] Email: mail to:hfs_inc@hotmail.com Australian Consulate-General in Bali, Indonesia <Australian Consulate-General Jalan Hayam Wuruk No 88B Tanjung Bungkak Denpasar, Bali 80234. Email (general enquiries): mail to:bali.congen@dfat.gov.au Office hours: 0800-1200 and 1245-1600 Monday-Friday. Postal address - PO Box 3243, Denpasar Bali Telephone - (+62 361) 283011 or 283241
I gave significantly to Indonesia after the Tsunami and if I was aware of this story then, I would not have. I can not support a nation whom has an attitude such as this. Furthermore, I am personally boycotting any and all business/travel/companies that have ANY ties with Indonesia. I can not accept this attitude and it is your countries choice to maintain as such, just as it?s my choice to spend my money and vacations with countries that are in the 21st century, are compassionate and expect human?s right to peruse happiness without interfering with anyone else.
Pickey
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: z_x_x_z]
#3791743 - 02/17/05 03:19 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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drgonz said: I really hope they give this woman a long drawn-out death experience, she's a filthy, drug pushing whore and deserves to die a painful death.
The creator of the earth should get the death penalty for putting all these vile weeds/fungi on the planet. This planet is too much man, rules rules rules. LIVE AND LET LIVE.
"Oh by the way, keep drinking beer and getting fat and stupid, you fucking morons" - Bill Hicks
You totally contradict yourself in this post, are you a moron? [image]http://img
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: z_x_x_z]
#3792374 - 02/17/05 08:26 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nobody has the right to take a life. Cannabis is a plant that gives benefits to the user without them getting addicted or harmed in any way. The only person who ever died from it was someone in Los Angeles when it fell on their head from a plane. I read a study of rats who had been fed cannabis until their stomachs burst with no other detrimental effects.
However, alcohol kills many people, more than heroin, causes cancer and other awful diseases and is encouraged by pubs being built on every street corner. There's no health warnings on bottles of alcohol even though it causes more cancer than tobacco.
Carrots are deadly. you can die from carotene poisoning after you turn orange.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: Pickey420] 1
#3840688 - 02/27/05 10:07 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pickey420, I too can only shake my head at some of the people in this thread who think execution is ok when it comes to Cannabis. But this is an American dominated site and Americans (generally) are poorly educated, ignorant and intolerant of others. This thread is no exception.
Btw, the whole trial is a stitch up, right down to the pot being local, known in Bali as 'lemon grass'.
All I can say is I will never travel to Indonesia, and unlike Schapelle Corby who is innocent of pot, well my life has for years been in association to fine herb. Some pics to brighten the mood, even though the Indo scum would love to shoot me.
Last but not least, I would have thought with the 1 billion AUD aid to the Indo's on account of the recent tsunami, along with a huge out pouring of Australian charity, that some slack be cut and Corby tried in Australia. After all, the Americans released Mamdouh Habib. Clearly Howard couldn't care less. Thanks on the petition site.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: Starter]
#3840943 - 02/27/05 11:42 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Starter said: Pickey420, I too can only shake my head at some of the people in this thread who think execution is ok when it comes to Cannabis. But this is an American dominated site and Americans (generally) are poorly educated, ignorant and intolerant of others. This thread is no exception
So both of you can't sense the sarcasm in his posts? I mean, it REEKS of sarcasm. Since when were Australian's perfect? What you said was both rude and completely unnecessary.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: theocean06]
#3841142 - 02/27/05 12:35 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hope she gets death, it might get media coverage and show people how crazy drug laws are.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: looner2]
#3841691 - 02/27/05 02:42 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah but it will also mean she dies.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: dblaney]
#3841734 - 02/27/05 02:53 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Exactly, no one should have to die for people to realize that the drug laws are ridiculous. I find it funny (and sad) that Pickard got two consecutive life sentences, where a murderer or rapist can be free in less than 10 years.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: theocean06]
#3841797 - 02/27/05 03:10 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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So both of you can't sense the sarcasm in his posts? I mean, it REEKS of sarcasm.
theocean06, it was a worthless post much like your prattle which added nothing to this thread topic, i.e. no comment on Indo police corruption. No comment on the recent good-will milage from the tsumani aid that's gone untapped. No comment on police evidence bungling, be it the strain of the pot originating locally in Bali and not from Brisbane, nor (and unmentioned in this thread so far) the lack of rubber gloves in handling the "boogie bag" that contained the 4+kg of Cannabis, so key evidence prints on the bag were lost. No comment on shameless protestors bursting into the court room demanding death on the defendant. Instead, you've make this about you since that's the only reason for why you chimed in.
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Since when were Australian's perfect?
No one is perfect nor did I suggest/say so. I simply pointed out a blunt truth that hurt your thin skin.
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What you said was both rude and completely unnecessary.
It was the truth and I could care less if it offended.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: Starter]
#3841898 - 02/27/05 03:31 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Starter said:it was a worthless post much like your prattle which added nothing to this thread topic
No, I was pointing out that the person was merely mocking the system over there. He was being sarcastic, but some people have a problem sensing sarcasm, and I was making sure they knew that.
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Starter said:Instead, you've make this about you since that's the only reason for why you chimed in
No where did I try this make this thread about me. Again, I was just pointing out that the man was being sarcastic, since it obviously upset the one member.
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Starter said:No one is perfect nor did I suggest/say so. I simply pointed out a blunt truth that hurt your thin skin
No, I am just sick of other people thinking they are above Americans because of what they see on "cops" or what they read in the paper.
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Starter said:It was the truth and I could care less if it offended
It isn't the truth. Every nation has assholes, including Australia. It just seems that the American government is screwing things up lately, not the citizens. Yes, we did elect them, but I can guarantee the majority of the Americans on this website (wasn't it 49% didn't want bush in office) did not vote for him. Please, next time, don't try to group me in with "them." I wasn't offended by your comment, and that last statement truly shows your lack of character.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: veggie]
#3842283 - 02/27/05 04:27 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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*another update*
Millionaire sends team to help Corby 24feb05 news.com.au
A TEAM of lawyers from the Gold Coast has been engaged by a high-profile mobile telephone entrepreneur in a bid to ensure beauty therapy student and alleged drug smuggler Schapelle Corby gets a fair trial in Bali.
Ron Bakir ? better known by his business name Mad Ron ? has thrown the legal lifeline to Corby, who has steadfastly maintained her innocence. Corby, 27, is facing the death penalty or life in jail if she is convicted. She was arrested after Customs officers found 4.1kg of marijuana in her unlocked bodyboard bag at Bali international airport last October.
Mr Bakir and Gold Coast lawyer Robin Tampoe will travel to Bali today to meet with Corby and her Indonesian legal team.
A spokeswoman for Mr Bakir yesterday said he had pledged an "open chequebook" to a team of three Gold Coast lawyers to work on the case.
She said Mr Bakir contacted Corby's family this week, concerned she was not getting a fair trial after reading newspaper reports about her case.
"He just thinks it's an outrageous situation," she said. "He just can't believe that there is somebody sitting in a jail over there that nobody from the Australian Government is willing to assist."
In December, Corby's defence lawyers in Indonesia accused Australian authorities of "playing games" with Corby's life by failing to provide them with information that could prove vital to her case.
"Ron is the first to say that if she's guilty she deserves to face all the penalties Indonesia puts on her," the spokeswoman said.
"However, everybody deserves a fair trial and he's convinced she's not getting one.
"He basically wants to give her the opportunity that we all deserve and that's a fair trial."
Mr Tampoe said he would be working with Corby's defence team to extract information from Australian authorities that had not been forthcoming.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: theocean06]
#3845622 - 02/28/05 06:54 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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theocean06,
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No, I am just sick of other people thinking they are above Americans because of what they see on "cops" or what they read in the paper.
Listen up, it's your country, not mine. But nah, you'd rather whine and excuse yourself from self-accountability. Typical of yank liberals. Wha, wha, wha, the world is pickin' on us! Typical of yank cons.
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It isn't the truth. Every nation has assholes, including Australia.
It's indeed true, and yes I enjoy being an "asshole" to seppo's, be it liberals or cons though you won't find Australia out to wage a war that won't end in our life times (as said by Cheney). Nor polarise all nations with a "you're with us or you're against us" ultimatum. Nor seek to control the greatest reserves of crude in the world (even though history has shown the Americans fail asymetrical warfare, aside from when they fought the Brits in their Independence War). All that while the US blows smoke up everyone's arses that it's to stop the terrorists (who are no more than CIA assets). And to boot, a futile hold to a dying reserve currency as it goes south under a compounding interest spend-fest of the neo-cons. So why has all of this come to pass, because too many Americans want it that way by their vote and/or apathy.
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It just seems that the American government is screwing things up lately, not the citizens.
Too many of your people are ignorant, apathetic and too fucking indolent to register to vote and are therefore responsible. Of the federal 2000 election, only half the potential eligible mass voted. In the recent 2004 federal, only 60% attended and apparantly that's been the best turn out since 1968. Pathetic. In Australia, the attendance is a routine 93% to 96% and has been since the 1920's when the vote was made compulsory. Your citizens, your fellow Americans, have chosen the direction of America. Don't try and spin it and invert it. The folks who had no say on the direction of America are the 95% non-American population of this world.
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Yes, we did elect them, but I can guarantee the majority of the Americans on this website (wasn't it 49% didn't want bush in office) did not vote for him. Please, next time, don't try to group me in with "them." I wasn't offended by your comment, and that last statement truly shows your lack of character.
You Americans voted for the neo-cons, as Bush won by 51%. No doubt due to Diebold, but without a paper trail the fraud will never be known and at the end of the day, it's the Americans who are responsible as it's their country. But hey, Jennifer Lopez and NAZCAR is just so much more important.
Yet the irony isn't lost on me, given endless Americans love to wank on about how they're bringing freedom, liberty and democracy to the world, as they wail on about the Ukraine, Afghanistan and Iraq, when ha, this is fucking funny, they have NONE back home.
I can only hope your Fuehrer kicks off the draft so loads of American punks on sites like this are sent off to glow from DU. I'm all heart. After all, it's all about retaining the American way of life, the highly wasteful SUV and McMansion McCulture. It's not like they'll die for a true cause other than "in gasoline we trust". So maybe after Americans feels a lot more pain they'll wake the fuck up? Who knows? It appears that's the only way your people will learn. But be fucked if any Aussies will be drafted for that choad because sure as shit the yank empire trip will be a shitcart like Nam.
Just remember, the world has little sympathy, nor should they, when 5% of the planet are Americans who use over one quarter of the world's oil. From that the US has created the world's greastest debt bubble for which they expect the world to endlessly prop up. True, the world has made a grave mistake allowing the clusterfuck US, the world's greatest credit junky, the blank cheque of a reserve currency, but equilibrium will be restored when the now proven Euro takes the USD's role. And if you don't know what that means, well too bad.
veggie, I saw that businessman on the Today show, several days back. He's upfront and sincere and I'm hoping that he's not only successful in swinging some honest justice to Corby (which will be a battle as they're corrupt), but that it brings positive PR to his investments.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: Starter]
#3846206 - 02/28/05 10:48 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Starter, why feel the need to spew your ignorant hate in this thread?
Care to elaborate on Australia's drug policy?
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: Starter]
#3846399 - 02/28/05 11:48 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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> Starter, why feel the need to spew your ignorant hate in this thread?
I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I gotta agree with looner2 on this. Regardless of ones ignorance (mine or others), or the idiots in charge of ones country (be it the US, Australia, etc), this thread is about some chick, smuggling drugs, and a death sentence hanging over her head because of it. Let us all try to stay focused and on topic, please. Starter, if you wanna bash America and Herr Bush, please start a new thread.
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Re: 27 year old faces death for marijuana [Re: Starter]
#3846415 - 02/28/05 11:51 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow, Australia is far superior to the US
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