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InvisibleSwami
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Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis
    #3328670 - 11/06/04 10:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Huh? Is a terrorist ANYONE who resists having their homeland invaded by the USA?
To date, there is not even the slighest hint that any native of Fallujah was planning so much as tossing a tomato in the mainland USA. Therefore, the pundits are either playing word games or the USA is creating more terrorists wherever they attack. If the latter is true then this is a very ill-thought out campaigne destined to TOTAL failure. (See: mythical hydra).


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Swami]
    #3328772 - 11/06/04 10:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

>> the USA is creating more terrorists wherever they attack.

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the war is not meant to be won.. it is meant to be continuous...
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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3328844 - 11/06/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
Quote:

the war is not meant to be won.. it is meant to be continuous...
[michael moore]




[George Orwell]




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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Gijith]
    #3330441 - 11/07/04 06:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Took the words right out of my mouth, Gijith. hehe


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Sclorch]
    #3330705 - 11/07/04 07:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Most of the Iraqis are not terrorists. They want the coalition forces to stay and help turn Iraq into a democracy.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3330708 - 11/07/04 07:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Great_Satan said:
Most of the Iraqis are not terrorists.  They want the coalition forces to stay and help turn Iraq into a democracy.




:rolleyes:


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: phi1618]
    #3332395 - 11/08/04 08:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

apparently phi here thinks the Iraqis want Saddam placed back into power, so they can be shot on his whim for not voting for him, denied a chance at economic prosperity? so they can be denied religious freedom? so they can be denied freedom of speech?

if you see a dog eating a pile of its own shit, do you try and stop it or do you walk by merely thinking to yourself "it must be what the dog really wants"?


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3332451 - 11/08/04 08:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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apparently phi here thinks the Iraqis want Saddam placed back into power




How u come to this conclusion from Phi's post is beyond me.

Quote:

so they can be shot on his whim for not voting for him




Did this actually happen?

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denied a chance at economic prosperity?




Pre sanctions I think you will find that the Iraqi's did quite well in comparison to the citizens of other Arab states.

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so they can be denied religious freedom?




But how far would any religous freedom be tolerated by the US if it started to turn into something perceived as Islamic fanaticism?

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so they can be denied freedom of speech?




True. At least they dont have to worry about newspapers being closed down or foreign media being banned from the country...oh hold on, actually thats what has been happening since Saddam was deposed!

Regardless of any of the above, do you actually think that just because people are resisiting the US they must want Saddam back? Cant you see that they might not like the brand of liberation that the US are giving them?
Many consider oil to be the primary motive for the invasion and feel their suspicions are confirmed when the US rush to secure the oil fields first and dont seem in any hurry to repair the infrastructure which they so readily destroyed.
They think the people currently in "power" at the moment are US puppets and they dont see alot getting done.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3332789 - 11/08/04 12:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

it is foolish to lump all the people of Iraq into the false category of "Iraqis." Some support US occupation, some want the old regime back, and even more do not want either - they simply want to be left the fuck alone. If you read up history and reports, you'll see the people of Fallujah fall into the "leave us alone" category.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3332792 - 11/08/04 12:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Most of the Iraqis are not terrorists

You're correct. A mere 2% of the "terrorists" picked up in Iraq by the americans have been foreign fighters. The rest are just ordinary Iraqis seeking the liberation of their country.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Swami]
    #3332829 - 11/08/04 12:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i dont think they are labeled terrorists because they are killing americans. they are terrorists because they are killing innocent civilians.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: 1stimer]
    #3332974 - 11/08/04 01:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

They're labeled terrorists because this is supposed to be a "war on terror".

You Americans are really fucking dumb. Sorry, intellectually challenged.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: AntiMeme]
    #3333008 - 11/08/04 01:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Nothing is wrong with voicing an opinion about what you think
is wrong in the world, but....

I just love smug foreigners who proclaim to know that they
are intellectually superior to Americans. They seem to think that
they have their hands on the pulse of American thought and that
this thought is devoid of any intelligence.

I say their predictable and boorish anti-American rants are
without intelligence.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Swami]
    #3333090 - 11/08/04 01:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Swami, you son of a bitch, you read my mind. I was watching Fox News this morning (because I enjoy starting the day pissed off) and every time the anchor referred to the Falluja resistance as "terrorists," I felt insulted...then pissed off. I planned on venting with a thread like this, but you beat me. I'm glad I'm not the only one who considered this.

they are terrorists because they are killing innocent civilians.
Hmm...does collateral damage make "liberators" into terrorists?


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Viaggio]
    #3333521 - 11/08/04 03:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yes


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3333955 - 11/08/04 07:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You misinterpreted my post.

I was rolling my eyes at the thought process that led Satan to connect these two ideas:
Quote:

Most of the Iraqis are not terrorists.



and
Quote:

They want the coalition forces to stay and help turn Iraq into a democracy.




I deffinately agree with the first one, and think the second one is probably true.

However, by making these two true statements in conjunction, Satan implied:
"Those Iraqis that do not want the coalition forces to stay are terrorists",
Which is patently false.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: phi1618]
    #3333999 - 11/08/04 07:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Our society has strayed so far from scientific cause and effect that it is alarming.

News pundits "joked" about how whenever the Redskins won right before an election, a Democrat would win. This type of ad hoc "reasoning" is becoming more prevalent and I fear "An Age of Irrationality" may be upon us.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Swami]
    #3334031 - 11/08/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
I fear "An Age of Irrationality" may be upon us.




The president of the united states is anti-abortion but pro-death-penalty... that age or irrationality is, unfortunately, already here...


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: Krishna]
    #3334479 - 11/08/04 09:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Krishna said:
Quote:

Swami said:
I fear "An Age of Irrationality" may be upon us.




The president of the united states is anti-abortion but pro-death-penalty... that age or irrationality is, unfortunately, already here...




You seriously must be joking if you cannot reconcile that someone can reasonably hold both those opinions. Is the concept of guilt (as in a murderer sent to death row} vs innocence (unborn fetus) beyond you? Don't misunderstand my personal opinion. I am pro-abortion (NOT pro-choice, I think you should have to pass a test). I could support the death penalty but unfortunately only if it was to be decided by myself. I don't trust anyone else, although I have never heard of a case where an innocent man was executed. But to think that there is an inherent illogic in simultaneously holding these two opinions is ridiculous.


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Re: Fox News: Half of the Terrorists in Fallujah are Iraqis [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3334535 - 11/08/04 10:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Britain, Poland, Australia, Italy and other countries are fighting in Iraq along with the USA, yet only the USA gets blamed for it.


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