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Asking something in the "name of Jesus"
#3327853 - 11/06/04 02:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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As Jesus' name was NOT spelled J-E-S-U-S, nor was his name pronounced Gee-Zuss, nor do we have any sort of an actual likeness of the man to picture in our heads while calling "His" name; who exactly are we "talking to"?
If someone posted a picture of Ghandi and said "Nathaniel" please help me, I certainly would not be coming to their aid as I would not know they were addressing me.
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: Swami]
#3327865 - 11/06/04 02:18 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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If someone posted a picture of Ghandi and said "Nathaniel" please help me, I certainly would not be coming to their aid as I would not know they were addressing me.
Are you suggesting you are Ghandi?
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: trendal]
#3327897 - 11/06/04 02:30 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tren, I never suspected you of a reading disorder.
Getting the picture, the name AND the pronunciation wrong is hardly the way to call anybody.
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: Swami]
#3328010 - 11/06/04 03:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jesus, can these people learn to spell? The man's name was "Gandhi" not "Ghandi".
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: Swami]
#3328065 - 11/06/04 03:46 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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So should people pray directly to God instead, or will he get pissed at me for jumping the chain of command?
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: Jellric]
#3328067 - 11/06/04 03:46 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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The man's name was "Gandhi" not "Ghandi".
Which man? Gandhi's name was Gandhi and Ghandi's name was Ghandi.
I have thought about combining two of my favorite moves: "Gone with the Wind" and "Gandhi". I would call it "Gandhi with the Windhi".
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: Swami]
#3328477 - 11/06/04 06:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry swam, I figured the grin would let you on to the joke
I suppose it's more of a symbolic act to ask something in the name of Jesus. The person is speaking to their image of their savior...its not as if Jesus was standing in front of then, flesh and blood. Besides, if Jesus is the son of God, I'm pretty sure he would know who's talking to him no matter what they called him. Human thought can't be that complicated
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: trendal]
#3328485 - 11/06/04 06:51 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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""As Jesus' name was NOT spelled J-E-S-U-S, nor was his name pronounced Gee-Zuss, nor do we have any sort of an actual likeness of the man to picture in our heads while calling "His" name; who exactly are we "talking to"?""
the concept?
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: Swami]
#3328504 - 11/06/04 07:02 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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An externalization, i.e. an externalized symbol/figure of intrinsic "Christ Consciousness".. or as in the East; Buddha Nature?
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: trendal]
#3328554 - 11/06/04 07:24 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was rejoking your joke - oh never mind.
When I pray to Jesus, I picture a heavily decomposed skeleton .
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Re: Asking something in the "name of Jesus" [Re: Swami]
#3328590 - 11/06/04 07:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good point Old Bean! Again, the Fundamentalist mentality has ill-effected even you! Naturally, the 'pray in my Name' can be taken literally (I actually do that) but in ancient thought, to possess the Name was to possess the Essence (hence the demand in demonology to know the demon's name and thus to have possession of both name and essence, and thus power over it). By corollary, to 'pray in my Name' is to 'pray in my Essence' or synonymously to 'pray in my Spirit.' And, since praying is the assumption of a Way of Being, it is (esoterically understood) as 'Pray [or BE] in my Spirit [or, Consciousness].' (This is only 'New Age' if you include New Age as beginning with R.M. Bucke's book 'Cosmic Consciousness' which came out in 1901).
So, I actually use the English Name Jesus, even though there is no 'J' in Greek, but 'I,' rendering the transliteration Iesus [Ee-soos], the Aramaic Issa, and the Hebrew Y'shua [English: Joshua]. Y'shua's Mom would've probably been calling Him 'Issa' in Aramaic since Hebrew was spoken in prayer and worship life.
If you haven't read 'The Gospel According to Biff,' I recommend it for lots of LOL's.
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