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fruiting chamber questions...
    #3327557 - 11/06/04 02:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i will be doing the tub in tub method. my tubs are seethrough and my cover is not. for fruiting, would it be ok to remove the cover and replace it with serane wrap so i can shine line through the top? is a 10 watt fluro going to heat up enough to be a fire hazard if i duct tape it to an under part of a chair (less than an inch between flammable materials) ?

if i decided to use the regular cover, would it be ok to shine the light in from the sides? i know they would grow towards the light but if i alternated which sides i shine the light from, i was thinking the mushrooms would actually grow upward since they would be wanting to grow either left or right, forcing them to grow upward (assuming i place the light on either side for the same amount of time). or is this just a stupid idea? should i just use serane wrap? any ways to prevent a fire hazard? sry for the huge jumble of questions...thanks for ur help


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: hills]
    #3327625 - 11/06/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the sides will be enough light without a florecent. That is if the room is not dark 24/7.


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: PhatSlacker]
    #3327644 - 11/06/04 02:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you let the light in through the sides, the shrooms are going to crawl. If you want them to grow upwards, you need to point the light from the top.

And did I hear you say you are using TnT for fruiting? Do you mean PMP? TnT won't have enough humidity. You need to set up an PMP or some other humidification for your fruiting chamber.

Seran wrap will work, but it can be hard to work with seran wrap. You might want to visit your 99cent store and get some clear plastic to make one of this...




You can also spray paint the sides black or something to darken it up a bit to block the light. Good luck

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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: hills]
    #3327657 - 11/06/04 02:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If i were you, i'd go get a dark colored tub the same size as you've got. I'd drop that tub in one of your clear ones and use that as an incubator (TNT). With the clear one left over i'd make a window in the lid like sam said and convert it into a pmp.


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: Sam1912]
    #3327801 - 11/06/04 03:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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And did I hear you say you are using TnT for fruiting?  Do you mean PMP?  TnT won't have enough humidity.  You need to set up an PMP or some other humidification for your fruiting chamber.





my humidity should be fine all i gotta do is the perlite humidification tek and place it in the other tub to keep it at optimum temps. right?  :japsmile:


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: hills]
    #3327882 - 11/06/04 04:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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And did I hear you say you are using TnT for fruiting?  Do you mean PMP?  TnT won't have enough humidity.  You need to set up an PMP or some other humidification for your fruiting chamber.





my humidity should be fine all i gotta do is the perlite humidification tek and place it in the other tub to keep it at optimum temps. right?  :japsmile:




What?


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: atomic1]
    #3327906 - 11/06/04 04:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

im not understanding how a tnt and a pmp arent the same exact thing


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: hills]
    #3327972 - 11/06/04 04:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the pmp is only for fruiting and the tub in tub is for incubation. the tub in tub has a controlled temp to keep the jars at optimal temps to speed up colonization as the pmp don't have a heater because you want temp drops to initiate fruiting, also there's no humidity needed for the jars to colonize in the tub in tub and in the fruiting chamber you need high humidity, hence the geolite at the bottom with the bubble wands hooked to a air pump which causes a wick action to help the cake absorb moisture. in fact you can switch your TNT over to a pmp every time but it ll be more trouble than its worth and not all the jars will finish at the same time and then you wont have a place to continue incubation. there for you need both a incubator and a fruiting chamber.


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: KyKid]
    #3327980 - 11/06/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yes you can use tit for fruiting just addperlite to the bottom of the top tub and cover with the lid

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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: phantasm]
    #3328006 - 11/06/04 05:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

But you can't use a clear tnt for incubation.


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: atomic1]
    #3328015 - 11/06/04 05:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

sure you can i do i just cover it with a towel it works great i also have some i painted with latex free primer that work just fine too

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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: phantasm]
    #3328034 - 11/06/04 05:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

kykid - i know
phantasm - exactly

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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: hills]
    #3328053 - 11/06/04 05:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

but why trouble yourself with all those problems when the Rubbermaid's are cheap and also no you cant, all the jars wont finish at the same time and then what the hell are you going to do with the ones that did finish because you cant put them in the tit because the wont fruit because of high tempts and them if you lower the temps you jars still colonizing will stall and take forever to finish. plus why do you guys insist on going against every ones words i mean experimenting is fine but matters like this have been solved out a long time before you or me ever started this hobby and they have made these teks to make it easier for us so why do you insist to go against them and make it harder than it is. but if you hellbent on doing it your way then go ahead but when the headaches start don't bitch on here.


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: KyKid]
    #3328063 - 11/06/04 05:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

whatever man...im short on space thats all there is to it.


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: KyKid]
    #3328064 - 11/06/04 05:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yes you can use a tub in tub( it maintains temperatures well) i didnt say it had to be the same tub in tub. Also you seem to be the one bitching.

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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: phantasm]
    #3328077 - 11/06/04 05:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

see i wouldnt of had to bitch if the guy would have stated why he wanted to do this shit in first place hes short on space, plus if hes short on space there goes you damn idea right out the window phantasm becuase he dont have enough space for a pmp so i doubt he does for two tnts. but hey man its friendly forum were all here for the same reason sorry if i sounded bitchy. and now that i know why your wanting to do it i understand. and yes it can be done it may be somewhat troublesome at times but it can work. and again sorry for the bitching.


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: KyKid]
    #3328104 - 11/06/04 06:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

alright, another question from a newbie on this post: what is the benefit of using a rubbermade tub like in sam1912's post rather than just using an aquarium? I'm guessing you want to control the light source? if I was to use the rubbermade, would I still have to make it into a dual-chamber unit? or would I put another container inside of this one? sorry I'm relying on you guys rather than doing research on this... feelin lazy.


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: boomer1]
    #3328125 - 11/06/04 06:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

make ur own post fool


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Re: fruiting chamber questions... [Re: boomer1]
    #3328130 - 11/06/04 06:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you can use a aquarium, i use one for my casing but thats becuase the creat there own humidity and also i dont and havent done many casings so i havent yet built a additional fruiting chamber for them, but the tubs are easier to work with, there cheaper and they come in solid colors and not clear and you can easily modify them with holes for air lines and other simple mods like that of the pmp. but with some misting and some faning and blocking the light from the sides a aquarium can be used


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