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OfflineLizard King
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Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom
    #3326117 - 11/05/04 10:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Check em out Gumby. I know the pics suck, I took them at night in poor lighting, which my camera is no good at doing. But I think you'll get the jist of it, I have to agree that these mushrooms are not Psilocybes.








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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Lizard King]
    #3326143 - 11/05/04 11:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like a Micromphale foetidum.


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Lizard King]
    #3326233 - 11/06/04 12:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

the first pic looks like it might contain 2 different types of mushrooms, but it is hard to tell.. I am asuming they are active and blue?.... That one on the bottom right upsidedown reminds me of those Subs from australia.


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Lizard King]
    #3326278 - 11/06/04 12:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I'm not sure what they are, but I'm pretty sure that the ones you are are the same that I pick and they're not Psilocybes. I'm thinking... maybe innocybe or something.

Heres some pics of the ones I found:







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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Gumby]
    #3326315 - 11/06/04 01:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I swear I see blueing in the second to last pic.


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Alsius]
    #3326348 - 11/06/04 01:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yep, thats bluing. Some kind of new active species I guess. I've been slacking hardcore and haven't sent them off to anyone. Perhaps I will this weekend... hrm.


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Gumby]
    #3326411 - 11/06/04 01:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

what kind of habitat are you guys finding these in?


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: 2Experimental]
    #3326468 - 11/06/04 02:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Piles of random sticks in the woods. We have a compost pile of just branches and thats where I found mine. LK found his in a similar kind of habitat.


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Gumby]
    #3327534 - 11/06/04 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

HI Gumby,

Tried to post this earlier and something was not allowing posting.

That orange mushroom does not look like any of the six species of inocybe which have psilocine and psilocybine in them.

However, it does resemble the German discovered Galerina steglechii mushroom found in a greenhouse in Germanyu in the late 1990s.

Here is a picture of that mushroom.




Your larger shroom resembles one of those in this image of the psilocybian species of Galerina.

However, as usual, I caution and warn viewers who are interested in collecting psilocybian mushrooms to avoid any shrooms with orange or cinnamon colored gills. That is becasue of their macroscopical resemblence to the deadly Galerina and Concocybe mushrooms. I also warn collectors not to pick any white gilled shrooms because of their possible confusion with deadly Amanita mushrooms.

I say stick to the bluing Copelandia/Panaeolus species and the chocolate to chocolate-purple-brown Psilocybe mushrooms.

have a shroomy dya.

Also I am not saying you have a Galerina with psilocine/psilocybine but please be careful with those specimens.

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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Gumby]
    #3327541 - 11/06/04 02:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: thearmedforces]
    #3327761 - 11/06/04 03:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Many other genera also have a pronounced nipple, but only a fwew have psilocine which have orange caps., I.e. Gymnopilus (13 species) which are larger and Conocybe (4 species) which are very small and skinny.

And Hypholomas, Naematoloma and Agrocybe can also macroscopically resemble Psilocybe species which also share similar characteristics.

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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3327862 - 11/06/04 04:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

To my eyes LK's mushrooms looks a bit different than Gumby's... look at the color of the gills for example.


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Lizard King]
    #3327937 - 11/06/04 04:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Are there any known mushrooms that contain psilocybin/psilocin that also contain toxins (i don't consider psilo a toxin).? Would this make any evolutionary sense?


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: nycomyco]
    #3328370 - 11/06/04 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Paul Stamets believes Azurescens contain some sort of neuro-toxin that his temporary. (Causes paralysis while tripping)


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Re: Another possible collection of Gumby's mushroom [Re: Kevin]
    #3328559 - 11/06/04 09:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It actuially causes a numbing of motor control and muscular co-ordination giving one the feeling of not being able to move. Cannot get up, etc.

This is true with baeocystis and cyanescens or anyone who eats more than the body needs.

Too give an example of a dose of P. cubensis for instance.

3-5 drioed grams or one to one and a half fresh ounces of cubensis for a good to very visual high. Especially visual and fast for someone who is a first time user. Over the years many eat them to where they have to eat up to a quarter dried ounce to get high.

Getting back to what is term as a clinical doage leve of 3-5 dried grams is 3000-5000 milligrams of musheroom tissue.

In that amount of 5000 milligrams, only 25-30 milligrams are psilocybine, which, when consumed on an empty stomach with siome chocolate milk to wash the shrooms down is such a minute amount that it would be hard to meassure a correct dosage if someone had the means to do so.

If you go over that LD50 level than it becomes toxic to your body and causes loss of muscular control, thus feeling paralyzed. It also makes one think they are not breathing because of the disruption of the time continuum. They slow down time or make it go real fast. Set and setting set the mood. You would have to eat your body weight in mushrooms or appoximately 19 grams (Ott, 1994) to od. But eating ten pounds of anything would probably kill someone. So this is just one of the adversed effwects of someone who ate too many shrooms.

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