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Re: Carlos Castaneda [Re: Gomp]
    #3325417 - 11/06/04 02:07 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Google web search. Must I do ALL the work?


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Re: Carlos Castaneda [Re: Swami]
    #3325419 - 11/06/04 02:08 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: Carlos Castaneda [Re: Swami]
    #3325427 - 11/06/04 02:12 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

haha, must you do anything?
you do, is that not enough?

:confused: :thumbup:


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Re: Carlos Castaneda [Re: Gomp]
    #3325788 - 11/06/04 03:58 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Why has no one ever actually read these books. It is stated in the intro to the first book that the book is fact and allegory. Carlos had something to say about Indian magical traditions which bear similarities to shamanism and share like concepts on some points, BUT Don Juan was NOT a shaman...real or fictional...he claimed to be a brujo (an evil type of sorcerer). He always refered to his art as "sorcery" and called himself a sorcerer...which is NOT a shaman. Many of the concepts he discusses are legitimate, but he had a bad habit of misappropriating native terminology and using it totally out of context. It must be noted that the personna of Don Juan was total invention, but that Carlos did have exposure to some of these concepts through his aquaintance with several Mexican and Peruvian shaman and sorcerers. His close friendship with the Huichol shaman Ramon Silva is particularly worth noting. In "People of the Peyote" anthropologist Stacy Schaffer discussed this. While much of Castaneda's work is fictionalized it is not without worth, and one could do worse than to read his work, BUT it is NOT a do-it-yourself guide to being a shaman or even a discussion of shamanism proper.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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