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thenewuser
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Still no pins :( (Tons-o-Pics) (Edit - 50+ Pins 11-8-04)
#3323722 - 11/05/04 08:52 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's been 5 days at Z strain, which have been very fast so far, and still no pins. I'm prob just getting ahead of myself, but just in case does it sound like I'm doing everything right? 73-75F 98-100% humidity I fan it out good and spray on all 4 sides of the chamber every 3 hours 12 hours of light a day Am I missing something? Maybe I'm just to excited, but I want to make sure I'm not goofing.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3323732 - 11/05/04 08:54 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like you're doing great! You're pins are just taking a while to show, don't worry, you're doing fine. Can take up to two weeks to get pins, but with your conditions you should be having pins any day now. - Silven Edit: Did you dunk/cold shock/roll those cakes, or just directly birth them after colonization?
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3323738 - 11/05/04 08:55 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't fan quite so much, maybe? But otherwise, sounds great! Just be patient and keep doing what you're doing. Good luck!
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Silven]
#3323739 - 11/05/04 08:55 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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5 days isn't long enough.. Patience. Give it another 2-3 at the least, 5-7 at the most.. then start worrying.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Silven]
#3323742 - 11/05/04 08:56 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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yah man i have the same exact conditions as you but my humidity is about 80 and im on day 6 no pins yet with cambodians. Lemme know when the fun starts man should be around the same time as me =)
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lol yeah, every morning it's like x-mass and I go check them, but no presents Yes I cold/dunked/rolled. I'm just getting impatient sorry.
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Quote:
insanity_420 said: yah man i have the same exact conditions as you but my humidity is about 80 and im on day 6 no pins yet with cambodians. Lemme know when the fun starts man should be around the same time as me =)
Give them Cambodians time.... I'm by no means an expert, but 2 "generations" of Cambodian cakes have both taken 12-14 days to pin for me, while 2 generations of Ecuadors have both pinned in ~6 days.. all in the same Pod.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: discman1]
#3323772 - 11/05/04 09:06 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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i hope your wrong disc ima cry if i have to wait that long. the casing is all knoted up, and growth had seemed to slow down on em the past day. If it takes that long by then my next shipment of syringes will be here (B+ and Golden Teacher). I thought cambodians were suppost to be one of the fastest growers? or is that just colonization.
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Yeah, I think that's just colonization. The fast times I'm seeing with the Ecuadors lead me to believe that it's just how long they take.
I suppose it's possible that conditions are more favorable to the Ecuadors or something.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: discman1]
#3323867 - 11/05/04 09:46 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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i believe tomorrow or the day after tomorrow you will see some pins. if not, it's normal to take even 10-14 days
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3323903 - 11/05/04 09:57 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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The day I see pins will be the day I dance and hop like a 5yr at xmass
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3325702 - 11/05/04 06:31 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is there like a sign before they start to pin? :P I just hope that my myc hasn't died or something.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3325715 - 11/05/04 06:34 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well if it starts to fuz up a little you should be great.
Then you start to see little knots which look like little white balls laying on the fuzzy myc. They form into pins.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Moxemerald]
#3325739 - 11/05/04 06:39 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahh thank you, Well one has tons of little white fuzzy balls on the top, one has a few white balls on the side. The rest all look "dry" and 0 little white balls, is that bad?
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3326011 - 11/05/04 08:08 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry, bump.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3326609 - 11/06/04 01:21 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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patience grasshopper
also if they look dry then why dont you mist em a bit, a little water wont hurt anything
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3326664 - 11/06/04 01:59 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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thenewuser said: Ahh thank you, Well one has tons of little white fuzzy balls on the top, one has a few white balls on the side. The rest all look "dry" and 0 little white balls, is that bad?
Looking dry is a bad thing. I was unsure of the whole misting thing for my first flush, and my cakes got too dry.. I think it hurt yield.
Here's a picture of primordial knots from my 1st flush. You can see some of the tiny ones are beginning to turn brown at the tip, signifying its transformation into a pin.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: discman1]
#3326976 - 11/06/04 07:42 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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The cakes aren't even changing from day to day now
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3326986 - 11/06/04 07:47 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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believe it or not, that is most likely a good sign. That means, the cake has stopped growing mycelium and has switched over to generative phase. Keep an eye for contam as that can have the same effect. Good luck For untrained eyes, cakes without fuzz can look dry. If you post a good pic, we should be able to tell you. But immediate indication of drying mycelium. It'll appear yellow. Smooth white doesn't neccessarily mean dry. I think you are doing good. And you should expect pins within next couple of days. I know someone said that before, but really... My guess is within 2 days. You should check the bottom of the cake carefully. You should see tiny white dots. In a day or two they'll turn into something bigger. Good luck! Sam
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Sam1912]
#3326991 - 11/06/04 07:51 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh ok, well you can imagine getting a little depressed, becuase I've put a hellva lot of work into this, and I keep things super clean, such as spraying the room with air sanitizer everytime I take off the lid. I dedicated an entire room to this thing, but thanks you cheered me up.
I have lights on them to keep them heated up to 74-75F, and they are always at 98-100% humidity, but could the lights be drying them?
FYI I missed them all with water/very small h202 content, sollution.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3326994 - 11/06/04 07:56 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL. I got another advice for you. Don't use lysol in the grow room. It's gonna give you mutants. Just keep things clean and if you want to take extra precautions, use couple of in line air filters for your air pump. Mist with peroxide/water mixture(mist lightly) before you close the lid. But disinfectant may do more bad than good IMO.
Check my post before this one again. I added some more stuff from my last post.
Good luck
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Sam1912]
#3326996 - 11/06/04 07:57 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok I won't use that anymore thanks, I don't have an air pump, I've been fanning every 3 hours though, and I mist after I fan. I will post a few 3mp and 5mp pics.
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Edited by thenewuser (11/06/04 07:59 AM)
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3326998 - 11/06/04 08:00 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah... Some upgrad for the future. PMP is the way to go. Lots of moist fresh air.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3327004 - 11/06/04 08:08 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read the pmp and it confused me, heh. I read that this system was good for a beginner. I will post pics soon, I will just link them, as they are HUGE! I took a few 3.5 and 5 mega pixel ones, at resolution 2000xsomething, these are the best pics I can take.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3327012 - 11/06/04 08:13 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by thenewuser (11/06/04 08:14 AM)
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3327017 - 11/06/04 08:17 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I birthed 8 cakes about 9days ago and this morning I have one pin, that's right one
But hey its better than none. I'm still anxious for the others to pin, I have the same feeling that I did somthign wrong.
F+ strain. My PmP is around 90%-95%humidity and the temp is around 65-70f so I expect it to be a bit slower.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Gluckon]
#3327034 - 11/06/04 08:29 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those cakes look very very healthy. You are doing good. Also... look up some info on double end casing. I know you rolled them, but you can also stack on about 1/2" moist verm on top and bottom. I water my verm twice a day using a syringe. I'll post a pic in a few. EDIT: You know what?! I have couple of pictures uploaded already.. I'll add one more fresh pic in a few. I keep my cakes well hydrated. Note the wet verm on top and bottom. A little bit of standing water on the bottom. This is overmisted... but shows double end casing well. Sam
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Edited by Sam1912 (11/06/04 08:35 AM)
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Sam1912]
#3327045 - 11/06/04 08:35 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just took more pics w/ auto focus, and a small video (video isn't to good), the pics are way better, please take a peek, thanks for your support! These things are huge, and will make this page look very ugly and big, but maybe it will help. If you want me to take down, just tell me. http://www.backupgigs.com/hyrumsstuff/hrm/01010001.JPG http://www.backupgigs.com/hyrumsstuff/hrm/01010002.JPG http://www.backupgigs.com/hyrumsstuff/hrm/01010003.JPG http://www.backupgigs.com/hyrumsstuff/hrm/01010004.JPG
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Edited by thenewuser (11/06/04 08:41 AM)
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3327051 - 11/06/04 08:36 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, those cakes are very happy cakes.
Sam
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Sam1912]
#3327056 - 11/06/04 08:38 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok thanks, I'll url them now so they don't blow up this site or something :P What do double ended casing do? Just keep them more wet?
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Edited by thenewuser (11/06/04 08:39 AM)
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Sam1912]
#3327071 - 11/06/04 08:44 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay.. here's a picture of a cake that just came out of a dunk after 2nd flush. Just an example of water supply on the bottom and top. Right now, your cakes don't need a lot of water... but as soon as they pin, they'll start to soak up really fast. I think you are still safe to put some verm on bottom... I'd wait until after next dunk to add verm to top.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Sam1912]
#3327074 - 11/06/04 08:46 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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double end casing is just a lot of verm to give a lot more water source. I water the verm twice a day once the pins form.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Sam1912]
#3327077 - 11/06/04 08:46 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok I wil wait, I did a bad job of rolling them I think I need to mash the verm into littler pieces. BTW, fun pics. You have the exact same chamber I do
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Edited by thenewuser (11/06/04 08:47 AM)
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3327084 - 11/06/04 08:49 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol. I have quite a few chambers. 6 as a matter of a fact. I can't fit too many cakes in each... They all take up a lot of space once they start growing mushrooms.
Oh yeah.. I was gonna mention that. Grind up the verm. Smaller stuff holds more water.
Good luck
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: Sam1912]
#3327086 - 11/06/04 08:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah I'm prob going to do the honey tek, and buy more chambers.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3329917 - 11/07/04 09:11 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Still no pins, 3rd day w/ no signs of myc change.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3329937 - 11/07/04 09:19 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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hwy buddy, i was waitin for you to post was wonderin this morning how yours were doin. Mine are still sittin just like yours been prolly 3 days too. the knot things are gettin more knottey i guess you can say not growing at all anymore I know exactly how you feel. But hey, no contams so i cant complain i inculated 3 b+ jars and 3 GT jars yesterday too. Not to worry thenewuser well prolly both get em pinning on the same day or pretty damn near =) Just keep the contams out GL
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Hrm well it's the 7th day in birthing, just 3 days w/ no new knots or myc change. Thanks though.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3329950 - 11/07/04 09:26 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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yah i know i been following ur post man I put my casing in the fruiting chaimber 8 days ago about 3 days ago it stopped growing
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Ahh ok. Well I wish big meaty fruits for us both, and maybe a little quicker.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3329969 - 11/07/04 09:41 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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yah slow pinning sucks. I didnt see it in here but did you cold shock em? I didnt do it to mine im wonderin if anything woulda been showin by now.
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I cold shock and rolled them, I'm scared that hurt them. I'm also using a very lightly water/h202 mix, like 1/100, for spraying the walls, maybe I should just use pure water.
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3329979 - 11/07/04 09:46 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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your h2o2/water mix is harmless
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Re: Still no pins :( [Re: thenewuser]
#3329981 - 11/07/04 09:48 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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i just use plain water but i cant really judge that im still new to all this. Do you have signs of contams? if not i would think plain water would be better. Edit: Guess it dont matter Insanity_420
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Well the fun has begun for me i got my first sight of pins! 3 of em. will post pics later i gotta go to work soon. Ok i got a few quick questions now though..
1) should i mist less now untli my flush is over
2) should i drop the ammount of light there getting now there at 12/12?
good luck thenewuser i hope u see what i see today =)
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leave it at 12/12 for your first grow. 12/12 works pretty well.
don't directly mist your pins. If you're going to mist, mist over the fruiting chamber and let the mist fall on your mushies.
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