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straw or hay?
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O.K. After all these pics by bluhoney and what i've read and been told I'm ready to case my next group of jars in straw instead of the 50/50+ (which I cant complain with the results so far) Ryche's teks have been very good to me..

My question is this: What the hell is the difference between straw and hay? I dont live in a wheat growing location however there is a lot of hay. Costal bermuda, johnson and alfalfa but no wheat straw. Will these other "hays" work as well or do I need to find wheat straw and if so where can I get it?

Anyway this might be a stupid question but any input will be greatly appreciated. Especially from you blu...

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Re: straw or hay? [Re: dmb420]
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Dont worry , to me the only stupid question is the one people dont ask.:). I would be glad to shed some light. There is a web site at www.mushroommagic.com that has chopped wheatstraw for 16.00 for 1/3 bale which is quiet alot and will last a long time. The other hays you mentioned will work BUT harbor a strong tendency to become contaminiated. I wouldnt recommend them. One of the keys to growing with nothing but a casing of wheatstraw is to keep the humidity high. As if you were growing on cakes. The reasoning behind this is the fact that straw can become dried out before the flushes complete. So keep the humidity high:).

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Re: straw or hay? [Re: bluhoney]
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Also here is a pic that my friend sent me of how the plain wheatstraw casing looks like. The mushrooms you see here are the brothers and sisters to the big ones she picked earlier.

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Edited by bluhoney on 06/01/01 11:31 PM.



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Re: straw or hay? [Re: bluhoney]
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I am convinced....
Got to give this a shot....
Thank you honey and keep up the good work....
You make it a lot of fun around here!

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Re: straw or hay? [Re: bluhoney]
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what is the reason not to case?

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Re: straw or hay? [Re: Triple_3]
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I guess one of the reasons for not using a casing layer is that alot of the times my friend has had contaminiation problems, it started in the casing layer. It also takes one less step out of growing bulk.

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Re: straw or hay? [Re: bluhoney]
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k, that's what I figured

just wondering about advantages besides sterility...
probably skips a week or two, huh?...
how are subsequent flushes?

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Re: straw or hay? [Re: Triple_3]
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Usually the 2nd and third flushes are larger than the first both in size and numbers. Also my friend noticed that more flushes grow from the center instead of near the sides.

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Re: straw or hay? [Re: dmb420]
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Straw is the hollow stem of ceral grains. When not used for growing mushrooms, it serves as a bedding material for animals. Hay is the stem and leaves of certain grasses or forbs e.g. alfalfa or timothy. Hay is used as animal food.


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Re: straw or hay? [Re: zetek]
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why does your friend not mix the straw with the spawn if she doesnt? ARe you saying that your friend noticed say trich form on the casing and then spread to the straw underneath? Where else can wheat straw be found as in stores, ect. Thanks for any info. also what is the paturasation process like, would sterilizing in bags not be good? thanks.

ps. It looks like eveyone is using thos containers, they rock, just the right size for those green tubs.

Edited by sonichell on 06/02/01 05:04 PM.


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Re: straw or hay? [Re: dmb420]
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I love dmb btw. Ok on the same lines here...the horses in the field next to me are grazing bermuda grass...and shitting lovely piles of golden bermuda laced shit......looks great....but will my cubensis like the bermuda?


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Re: straw or hay? [Re: Gretchenmeister]
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Gretchenmeister said:
I love dmb btw. Ok on the same lines here...the horses in the field next to me are grazing bermuda grass...and shitting lovely piles of golden bermuda laced shit......looks great....but will my cubensis like the bermuda?


it shouldn't matter what they are eating, but you want the aged dry manure not FRESH.


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Re: straw or hay? [Re: dmb420]
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This thread has been closed.

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It's very well known that horse manure is a preferred substrate. This thread has been dead for 6 years!

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